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[+] PointyFluff@lemmy.ml -29 points 9 months ago (9 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago (1 child) You should read Blackshirts and Reds, it deals with the many differences between the two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago Good bot /j permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de -13 points 9 months ago (1 child) but why then has the bird the symbol of a fascist regime, and not, say, the silhouette of Karl? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago Trying to zero in on where your head is at. Are you saying that any symbol that features intersecting lines is a fascist symbol or something? permalink fedilink source parent [–] yayael@mastodon.social 8 points 9 months ago @PointyFluff Much like what @Cowbee said, Fascism and Communism work on completely different sets of logic. Fascism views the State as a organism that must be kept homogeneous through a strictly defined hierarchy. Communism views the socialist state as a tool to bring down hierarchies in favor of an egalitarian society where the means of production (resources) are collectively owned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dippy@beehaw.org 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) Not all communism is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org 1 point 9 months ago Not necessarily. There are indigenous societies from all across the world who were communist for millenia, and many who still strive for it while capitalism is forced upon them. They often are more anarchist in structure. But even assuming that state power of some degree is required, there is a lot of room for debate about how much. Original commenter seemed concerned about authoritarianism, I assume that their understanding of communism is Stalin's USSR. There are certainly ways to be auth/com without going that far, and that commenter may find those appealing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago But the good kinds that actually work and help people are permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 22 points 9 months ago (1 child) You should read Blackshirts and Reds, it deals with the many differences between the two. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago Good bot /j permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 points 9 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago Good bot /j permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de -13 points 9 months ago (1 child) but why then has the bird the symbol of a fascist regime, and not, say, the silhouette of Karl? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago Trying to zero in on where your head is at. Are you saying that any symbol that features intersecting lines is a fascist symbol or something? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de -13 points 9 months ago (1 child) but why then has the bird the symbol of a fascist regime, and not, say, the silhouette of Karl? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago Trying to zero in on where your head is at. Are you saying that any symbol that features intersecting lines is a fascist symbol or something? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago Trying to zero in on where your head is at. Are you saying that any symbol that features intersecting lines is a fascist symbol or something? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yayael@mastodon.social 8 points 9 months ago @PointyFluff Much like what @Cowbee said, Fascism and Communism work on completely different sets of logic. Fascism views the State as a organism that must be kept homogeneous through a strictly defined hierarchy. Communism views the socialist state as a tool to bring down hierarchies in favor of an egalitarian society where the means of production (resources) are collectively owned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 0 points 9 months ago (2 children) Not all communism is authoritarian permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org 1 point 9 months ago Not necessarily. There are indigenous societies from all across the world who were communist for millenia, and many who still strive for it while capitalism is forced upon them. They often are more anarchist in structure. But even assuming that state power of some degree is required, there is a lot of room for debate about how much. Original commenter seemed concerned about authoritarianism, I assume that their understanding of communism is Stalin's USSR. There are certainly ways to be auth/com without going that far, and that commenter may find those appealing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago But the good kinds that actually work and help people are permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago* (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dippy@beehaw.org 1 point 9 months ago Not necessarily. There are indigenous societies from all across the world who were communist for millenia, and many who still strive for it while capitalism is forced upon them. They often are more anarchist in structure. But even assuming that state power of some degree is required, there is a lot of room for debate about how much. Original commenter seemed concerned about authoritarianism, I assume that their understanding of communism is Stalin's USSR. There are certainly ways to be auth/com without going that far, and that commenter may find those appealing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 1 point 9 months ago Not necessarily. There are indigenous societies from all across the world who were communist for millenia, and many who still strive for it while capitalism is forced upon them. They often are more anarchist in structure. But even assuming that state power of some degree is required, there is a lot of room for debate about how much. Original commenter seemed concerned about authoritarianism, I assume that their understanding of communism is Stalin's USSR. There are certainly ways to be auth/com without going that far, and that commenter may find those appealing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago But the good kinds that actually work and help people are permalink fedilink source parent