Viewpoints haven’t been proposed, at least not any I’d disagree with or that go outside of the framework of Mosaic laws, for example. Only additions (“why no rape? Include no raping!”) that make sense and follow from/do not leave the same virtuous paradigm.
Is that in response to something said or just a statement ?
And saying that a death caused by self defense is not the same as violently going outside starting shit/killing people are not similar things just because someone died and that you’d have to be in a coma not to realize it is a pretty lukewarm take, lol.
So....“Only people in a coma wouldn’t come to the same exact interpretation as i have”
That aside, you're response to that reply was essentially:
- an agreement that it's open to interpretation
- you agreeing that your interpretation is similar to theirs
then proceeding to claim that western imperialism is because people don’t have the exact same interpretation as you.
Then for some reason pretending they were arguing against their own interpretation because they don't like the vagueness of the original.
And finally, saying some things are A and others are B, that truth exists regardless of our ability to get to it, and that not everything can change on the basis of our whims (right and wrong in every situation, for example, but it’s beyond morality) is just an epistemological stance.
An epistemological stance that conveniently doesn't require you to actually engage with any argument you don't want to "because it just is".
Nothing about faith, or religion, just how you see the world.
"Some things just are" is one of the the very definitions of faith (firm belief in something for which there is no proof)
And the Qur’an? You mentioned wanting something solid, something extensive and well written and I know that, besides the fact that I’m lazy and easily distracted and will probably never write anything, even if I did write something of quality on the topic, it would not be better than the Qur’an. I can’t even write to the level of Ecclesiastes and that’s just Solomon speaking from lived and analysed experience! That’s another book recommendation, btw, it’s in the Bible.
Ah, i see, yeah, no.
If it can be taken and used to justify atrocities, it's not solid enough.
All the current religious texts have the same problem i described before.
If i'm going to follow the rules from an omniscient, omnipotent deity on how not to end up in an eternal suffering made specifically as punishment for not following said rules, that shit needs to be ironclad.
Otherwise that's just someone setting up their own torture-based reality drama series with the deck stacked against us.
Why does it even need to be in writing, there are clearer ways to signal an imminent fuckup if you are all powerful.
You can also save your "but free will" argument as well, i'm not saying don't let us do stupid shit, I’m saying use the infinite power and understanding to devise as way to absolutely certain we understand the game being played.
A three thousand year game of textual telephone with malicious actors inbetween, is not that.
Fuck-it, an indestructible book(even a pamphlet) everyone has their own copy of that can't be lost or stolen would do it.
If it can't be codified like that then it's guidelines that are open to interpretation and i'm good with figuring that shit out myself.