According to officers of the Israeli military's Southern Command, the shelling was aimed at maintaining order at food distribution sites, but the army has since shifted to "other methods."

Archive article: https://archive.ph/R0IP4

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (19 children)

    Do you truly, honestly believe that people shooting starving kids in bread lines are morally conflicted about the genocide they are committing? Nobody is forcing them to shoot at bread lines. They choose to do it.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 19 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    I'm not talking about that.

    You can’t just ignore the genocide because it makes your point weak.

    Black people are born black and cannot change that. Jews are born that way and cannot change it. Nobody is born in the IDF.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 17 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Do you think it's too extreme to say 'death to nazis'?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 15 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    But they aren't saying death to Israelis when saying death to the IDF. You have to understand the difference between wishing for genocide upon a group of people and wishing for the end of an institution that does nothing but harm and bad.

    It's also worth noting that the only right thing to do for a member of the IDF is to fight the IDF.

    They are morally obligated to tear down the infrastructure of genocide that they are a part of. The only good IDF soldier is the one who is working in earnest to oppose the IDF. All of the rest of them are cowardly garbage human beings who should probably go to the Hague.

    A tremendous number of them probably should be hung until death and then buried at sea with no ceremony. People who do what they do should have even their memories killed.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 13 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    It's not hate speech to hate the military of a genocidal apartheid state.

    The fact that the military of that state uses conscription to smear shit on everybody who grows up there does not absolve the population from their moral obligation to oppose their government.

    Just following orders is a really poor excuse for genocide. You can hate the IDF without calling for genocide. In fact I haven't heard anybody call for genocide in any of these threads except for people supporting the IDF.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Children are being slaughtered in the thousands by a genocidal regime and you're here spending most of your day tone policing the negative response to it. Speaks volumes about what you stand for

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Provide an example of a child serving in the IDF

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That would be pretty damning in its own right, right? What is this dude even trying to argue?

    It seems like concern trolling. "I'm just worried that people will interpret you hating on this genocidal military as if it's exactly the same thing as calling for the death of an ethnic group because only that ethnic group is allowed to participate in this genocidal military!"

    It's such a bizarre argument

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Concern trolling is exactly what they're doing, you nailed it. Yet another page out of the zio playbook.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    Damn, you're so smart, totally decrypted me. I guess wanting for lemmy to not get on their radar and become ruined by bad media attention is now zionism. Oh well, gotta shave my hair now, or whatever the fuck they're doing with their heads. Anyway, back to my eastern european rural cabin to spread more zionism

  • source
  • parent
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    death of an ethnic group because only that ethnic group is allowed to participate in this genocidal military!

    Except you keep making shit up from thin air. I never said such things, you said them as a strawman argument.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    You can go to prison for the duration of the service instead of participating in genocide. Anyone who doesn’t do that is actively choosing to commit genocide.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 15 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Getting shot in a breadline also ruins your future chances at a good life. Being bombed in your hospital bed ruins your future chances of having a good life. Do you deny the genocide in Gaza?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 13 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Because you keep begging for sympathy towards those who choose to commit genocide. You are pretending like there is some moral quandary here where none exists.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Most Europeans don’t sympathize with genociders.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Most of the traffic from 4chan was from Israel.

    No one in this thread has called for genocide.

    The IDF is a criminal terrorist organization. Participation in it is morally reprehensible. If in order to have a good life you have to murder children standing in bread lines then your idea of a good life is not worth preserving.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    The IDF is not an ethnic group. Your sad attempts at claiming otherwise betray your obvious bigotry.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 5 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I don’t see how that’s relevant. There are plenty of Jews that aren’t in the IDF. Most of them, in fact.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    He said death to the idf not death to israelis. So your example is trash. I am sure you are ok with russians soldiers dying in ukraine

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 29 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    You are the one missing the point. The only place where idf dies is in palestine

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 23 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

    In wars soldiers dies . The invaded has the right to self defense so yeah in Iran and Syria they can die. Are you telling me international law makers was fanatics when they gave right to armed resistance to the occupied?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 21 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (19 children)

    The war in syria ended. Hizbollah isn't retaliating right now for israel not respecting the cease fire. Do yeah the only place where idf can die is in palestine where internalional law give them the right to fight back.

    You the guy who spread israeli lies and keep defending their war crimes and never condemn any killing of palestinians

    You are the fanatic not us

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 19 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (18 children)

    Do yeah the only place where idf can die is in palestine

    So... You're saying no one died inside the Israel from Iran's rockets? Are you saying no one died from years of rocket launches inside Israel from Palestine? No servicemen died during Oct 7 attacks? Wtf are you saying?

    Also, Israel is still at war with Syria, officially there has not been peace decleration, but there's progress

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-in-advanced-talks-for-deal-to-end-hostilities-with-syria-says-senior-official/

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 18 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (17 children)

    No , i never said that. Again the war with iran ended. And iran had the right to response to isreel agression by targetting building connected to the military. Military target are valid in war. Death to civilians is unacceptable and death to combattant is

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 17 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    Remind me, where did most of the Iran's rockets dropped? Could it be city centre by any chance?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 16 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (15 children)

    On military targets. That's why there was a strict censorship in israel. They only allowed israeli to film collateral damage to civilians

    Israel been ignoring international law since it creation why do you never condemn that?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 15 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (14 children)

    There are hundreds of videos available of the blasts that I myself went thru, some straight up close ups. Tf are you hallucinating?

    Israel been ignoring international law since it creation why do you never condemn that?

    Did anyone ask me to do that? I missed such request, but sure, like I said 30 times before, I condemn what Israel is doing.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 14 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (13 children)

    There are hundreds of videos available of the blasts that I myself went thru, some straight up close ups. Tf are you hallucinating?

    I didn't say that there is no civilians building that was hit. There also a million more time videos of injured kids coming from gaza

    Did anyone ask me to do that? I missed such request, but sure, like I said 30 times before, I condemn what Israel is doing.

    Since you admit here that Israel committing war crimes , whatever you realize it or not , it give the right to Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine to kill idf soldiers when they invade an attack those countries

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 13 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

    Since you admit here that Israel committing war crimes , whatever you realize it or not , it give the right to Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine to kill idf soldiers when they invade an attack those countries

    Of course, this is also what I've said before.

    Now, can we get back to my original argument that everyone seems to be ignoring? Calling for deaths of millions of people, or simply calling for genocide is bad. Do you agree?

    If so, do you think some lemmy users are putting huge risk on entire lemmy platform due to their choice of words, especially if we get on their radar and media suddenly starts rolling out pieces that lemmy is extremism and hate breeding platform that needs to be shut down? Are you finally understanding my point? I don't know how to make this more obvious, but I'm not defending IDF, I'm defending lemmy from seeing the same fate as other freedom boards and bunch of chans. There seriously needs to be a reddit competitor, but I do not see lemmy suceeding with the way things are going

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 12 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (11 children)

    Now, can we get back to my original argument that everyone seems to be ignoring? Calling for deaths of millions of people, or simply calling for genocide is bad. Do you agree?

    I didn't ignore it and i will repeat it as much as needed. The chant do not call for killing millions of jews it's a call for Palestinians right to kill the invaders in war. The only place where idf soldiers are getting killed is in Palestine now and the circumstances where IDF get kill is in wars.

    I have yet to see anybody here saying there is no civilians in Israel. We also don't give a damn about the media who support occupation and genocide

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 11 child comments
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Because the chant is posted in context of palestine and the idf is the invader in that case. How hard is that to understand?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 9 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    How hard is it for you to understand that "kill the invaders" sounds far, far more acceptable for everyone who isn't hot-heated, including media, than "Death to IDF"? How do you plan on swaying the opinions of people being enrolled into IDF when your argument is "Death to you just because IDF, no matter if you do tech work or aid protection", instead of talking about the real issue, which is invaders?

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 8 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    Don't tell people how they should express the same idea with different words

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 7 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I will because unlike you, I want long term sustainability for lemmy. With people like you around, that will be hard.

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 6 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Says the guy capable of only talking about Israel/Palestine. I doubt you even fully managed to process my argument, not sure if you're capable of that. You're essentially the redditor everyone complains about, constantly pissing people off by plugging your political opinions everywhere and then forcing others to express them too

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 4 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Go back to reddit where you can defend israel without any pretense. You think you smart but everybody know who you are.

    I am only pissing scummy people like you

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 3 child comments
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Yeah, my argument definitely went over your head if you just asked me to go argue politics on reddit.. just, damn. I don't even give a shit about Israel or Palestine (but obviously morals tell me Israel is in the wrong), that's the brutal truth, I'm literally living next to russia under Russian threats of invasion, why tf would I spend my energy arguing middle east. I just want people to stop talking so dangerously and stop being so political everywhere

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    You are an hypocrite. If you don't care about the conflict simply never interact with post about it and don't make excuses to israel then claim to be against israel. You have many comments removed for genocide apologia and repeat israeli propaganda like the use of human shields. We know very well that is israel who use palestinians as human shield since 2002

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 1 child comment
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    You are an hypocrite. If you don't care about the conflict simply never interact with post about it and don't make excuses to israel then claim to be against israel

    Dude, please stop being stupid. I repeated multiple times that I'm not defending Israel and that this isn't really about politics in general, but rather lemmy and the damage it could bring. I repeated that so many times I lost count, but you still assume wild things and then start coming at me based on your own hallucinations. I almost never interact with said threads anyway, but that sentence that essentially could get lemmy on black lists triggered me. Don't ruin it for everyone.

  • source
  • parent
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • [–] a comment that isn't shown here: deleted, from someone you've blocked, or on another page. view the thread from it
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Same with nazis . Mandatory or not it is valid to kill soldiers in wars

  • source
  • parent
  • hideshow 2 child comments
  • load more comments (1 reply)
  • load more comments (2 replies)