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People espousing that unions don't work should have a look at police unions. (lemmy.world)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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You can't touch a single police officer without them throwing a hissy fit and shutting everything down.

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[+] -8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Company unions don't work.

And if union busting is encouraged by the government, being part of a regular union might not be worth the sacrifice.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    For those that haven't read the link

    A company or "yellow" union is a worker organization which is dominated or unduly influenced by an employer and is therefore not an independent trade union. Company unions are contrary to international labour law (see ILO Convention 98, Article 2).1 They were outlawed in the United States by the 1935 National Labor Relations Act §8(a)(2),2 due to their use as agents for interference with independent unions. However, company unions persist in many countries.

    A company or "yellow" union is a worker organization which is dominated or unduly influenced by an employer and is therefore not an independent trade union. Company unions are contrary to international labour law (see ILO Convention 98, Article 2).1 They were outlawed in the United States by the 1935 National Labor Relations Act §8(a)(2),2 due to their use as agents for interference with independent unions. However, company unions persist in many countries.

    I also didn't know this:

    Japan

    Main article: Labor unions in Japan

    Company unions are a mainstay of labor organization in Japan, viewed with much less animosity than in Europe or the United States. Unaffiliated with RENGO (the largest Japanese trade union federation), company unions appeal to both the lack of class consciousness in Japanese society and the drive for social status, which is often characterized by loyalty to one's employer.25

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Union busting government deserves to fall.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    And company unions do as well.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I agree with you

    Most people won't understand the difference or read your link

    Especially because "company" unions aren't a thing in the civilised world

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I added the link just seconds ago. Apparently looking up new terms is too difficult.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    It's more that context is important. The thread is about "Police Unions", so it's not surprising that people would read "Company Union" as meaning a union at a commercial enterprise by contrast, rather than the highly specific and obscure 100-year-old definition that you've used that distinguishes a company union from a trade union.

    You can either prance about in the thread about how dumb everyone else is, or you could edit your original statement to clarify what you meant rather than throwing up a load of links.

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