▲ 1058 ▼ We can't even pump fuel anymore without holding a digital billboard (Netherlands) (i.redd.it) submitted 9 months ago by Cattail@lemmy.world to c/assholedesign@lemmy.world 286 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 57 points 9 months ago (29 children) Vandalize it. permalink fedilink source hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 42 points 9 months ago (17 children) I'm usually not in favor of this sort of thing. But I think there are some instances where that may be justified. This screen serves ZERO public benefit. It's just there to annoy you. So IMHO doing something like 3d printing a cover that you leave on the screen is a public service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 44 points 9 months ago (13 children) 99% of advertisements serve zero public benefit. Its in society's best interest to actively hinder them whenever possible IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 9 months ago (2 children) Advertisement is the ruling classes' graffiti. Obliterating it is a public service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago I like this take permalink fedilink source parent [–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago Well said permalink fedilink source parent [–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) All right well I hate to disagree but advertisements do support a lot of websites and news organizations, or at least they used to before the tech Giants took most of the advertising money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (6 children) The question is not whether they support a business model, it's whether they are good for humanity. And they are bad for humanity from a socioeconomic perspective because it is labor power spent with negative net use value produced. Compare it with imperialist wars: they are the business model of the entire MIC, and yet I hope you agree that wars of aggression are bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago (5 children) Without ads all news is subscription. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Or we could do the sensible thing and make a few taxpayer-funded news agencies, same as with the rest of public services. UK, Canada and Australia have public broadcasters, and while fundamentally they are still tools of imperialist propaganda they are usually more accurate with their reporting and truthful with their journalism than the billionaire-owned ad-ridden slop. The rest could then be funded through a mix of grants, subscriptions and volunteers. Continuing with the MIC/wars analogy: "without MIC and wars to fund it we wouldn't have done the research for transistors/ICs/microwaves/radar/...". It's obviously a false dichotomy designed to normalize wars of aggression. It's the same here, brainworm slop and paid slop are not the only two alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Sorry, whose infrastructure are these gas pump advertisements propping up? Pretty sure this is just going towards lining someone's pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago I was just responding to 99% of advertisement being whatever. Obviously this one is bullshit, a lot of it's bullshit. Maybe most. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago (2 children) This screen serves ZERO public benefit. It's in a gas station, why would it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 child) Why shouldn't it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago Why shouldn’t it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? You answered already: Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (6 children) If you don't know about automatic metal punches, they're a great solution to these fuckin' things. Small enough to be palmed and will punch right through a screen with little effort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago Thank you for your service. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shithawk@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children) Yep.. brass punch. Graffiti mop with a metal tip full of brake fluid/ink combo does some fun stuff too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child) Hang on, that's just a bingo dotter... edit: God I forgot how much I hate what the graffiti community has become. "Oh just etch your tag in so it will be harder to remove" what fucking dipshit toy came up with that? Did impermanence just get forgotten? Where did the obsession about not getting buffed come from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shithawk@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago As someone who does slaps, I'm no stranger to the idea of temporariness nor do I really try to combat it. My work sticks around then disappears, as I will eventually myself. As for the obsession of not getting buffed who knows, likely born out of the gang affiliated side of graffiti, same boneheads who fight people physically over turf, etc.. But since we were discussing obstructive protest I think it's worth a mention. Speaking of which - don't get a weed sprayer off of Craigslist and fill it full of paint, that sort of thing could lead to no good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Fuck me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago With a metal punch? That seems kinda... organ-burst-y permalink fedilink source parent [–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Yes this is an invitation to it. Destroy that shit. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) This was reported but I don't think it warrants censorship. If you're taking this more seriously than it should be, just keep in mind that there will likely be legal consequences since gas stations frequently have plenty of cameras and ask yourself if this hill is worth dying on. You'll get charged and they'll just replace the damn things anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Lmao, was my comment the only one reported? Because this whole thread is people saying to vandalize it. 😂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, not sure why yours in particular was the only one, probably timing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 42 points 9 months ago (17 children) I'm usually not in favor of this sort of thing. But I think there are some instances where that may be justified. This screen serves ZERO public benefit. It's just there to annoy you. So IMHO doing something like 3d printing a cover that you leave on the screen is a public service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 17 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 44 points 9 months ago (13 children) 99% of advertisements serve zero public benefit. Its in society's best interest to actively hinder them whenever possible IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 9 months ago (2 children) Advertisement is the ruling classes' graffiti. Obliterating it is a public service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago I like this take permalink fedilink source parent [–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago Well said permalink fedilink source parent [–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) All right well I hate to disagree but advertisements do support a lot of websites and news organizations, or at least they used to before the tech Giants took most of the advertising money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (6 children) The question is not whether they support a business model, it's whether they are good for humanity. And they are bad for humanity from a socioeconomic perspective because it is labor power spent with negative net use value produced. Compare it with imperialist wars: they are the business model of the entire MIC, and yet I hope you agree that wars of aggression are bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago (5 children) Without ads all news is subscription. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Or we could do the sensible thing and make a few taxpayer-funded news agencies, same as with the rest of public services. UK, Canada and Australia have public broadcasters, and while fundamentally they are still tools of imperialist propaganda they are usually more accurate with their reporting and truthful with their journalism than the billionaire-owned ad-ridden slop. The rest could then be funded through a mix of grants, subscriptions and volunteers. Continuing with the MIC/wars analogy: "without MIC and wars to fund it we wouldn't have done the research for transistors/ICs/microwaves/radar/...". It's obviously a false dichotomy designed to normalize wars of aggression. It's the same here, brainworm slop and paid slop are not the only two alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Sorry, whose infrastructure are these gas pump advertisements propping up? Pretty sure this is just going towards lining someone's pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago I was just responding to 99% of advertisement being whatever. Obviously this one is bullshit, a lot of it's bullshit. Maybe most. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago (2 children) This screen serves ZERO public benefit. It's in a gas station, why would it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 child) Why shouldn't it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago Why shouldn’t it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? You answered already: Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 44 points 9 months ago (13 children) 99% of advertisements serve zero public benefit. Its in society's best interest to actively hinder them whenever possible IMO. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 9 months ago (2 children) Advertisement is the ruling classes' graffiti. Obliterating it is a public service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago I like this take permalink fedilink source parent [–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago Well said permalink fedilink source parent [–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) All right well I hate to disagree but advertisements do support a lot of websites and news organizations, or at least they used to before the tech Giants took most of the advertising money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (6 children) The question is not whether they support a business model, it's whether they are good for humanity. And they are bad for humanity from a socioeconomic perspective because it is labor power spent with negative net use value produced. Compare it with imperialist wars: they are the business model of the entire MIC, and yet I hope you agree that wars of aggression are bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago (5 children) Without ads all news is subscription. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Or we could do the sensible thing and make a few taxpayer-funded news agencies, same as with the rest of public services. UK, Canada and Australia have public broadcasters, and while fundamentally they are still tools of imperialist propaganda they are usually more accurate with their reporting and truthful with their journalism than the billionaire-owned ad-ridden slop. The rest could then be funded through a mix of grants, subscriptions and volunteers. Continuing with the MIC/wars analogy: "without MIC and wars to fund it we wouldn't have done the research for transistors/ICs/microwaves/radar/...". It's obviously a false dichotomy designed to normalize wars of aggression. It's the same here, brainworm slop and paid slop are not the only two alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Sorry, whose infrastructure are these gas pump advertisements propping up? Pretty sure this is just going towards lining someone's pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago I was just responding to 99% of advertisement being whatever. Obviously this one is bullshit, a lot of it's bullshit. Maybe most. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] asg101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 9 months ago (2 children) Advertisement is the ruling classes' graffiti. Obliterating it is a public service. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago I like this take permalink fedilink source parent [–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago Well said permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hector@lemmy.today 0 points 9 months ago (9 children) All right well I hate to disagree but advertisements do support a lot of websites and news organizations, or at least they used to before the tech Giants took most of the advertising money. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (6 children) The question is not whether they support a business model, it's whether they are good for humanity. And they are bad for humanity from a socioeconomic perspective because it is labor power spent with negative net use value produced. Compare it with imperialist wars: they are the business model of the entire MIC, and yet I hope you agree that wars of aggression are bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago (5 children) Without ads all news is subscription. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Or we could do the sensible thing and make a few taxpayer-funded news agencies, same as with the rest of public services. UK, Canada and Australia have public broadcasters, and while fundamentally they are still tools of imperialist propaganda they are usually more accurate with their reporting and truthful with their journalism than the billionaire-owned ad-ridden slop. The rest could then be funded through a mix of grants, subscriptions and volunteers. Continuing with the MIC/wars analogy: "without MIC and wars to fund it we wouldn't have done the research for transistors/ICs/microwaves/radar/...". It's obviously a false dichotomy designed to normalize wars of aggression. It's the same here, brainworm slop and paid slop are not the only two alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Sorry, whose infrastructure are these gas pump advertisements propping up? Pretty sure this is just going towards lining someone's pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago I was just responding to 99% of advertisement being whatever. Obviously this one is bullshit, a lot of it's bullshit. Maybe most. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago (6 children) The question is not whether they support a business model, it's whether they are good for humanity. And they are bad for humanity from a socioeconomic perspective because it is labor power spent with negative net use value produced. Compare it with imperialist wars: they are the business model of the entire MIC, and yet I hope you agree that wars of aggression are bad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago (5 children) Without ads all news is subscription. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Or we could do the sensible thing and make a few taxpayer-funded news agencies, same as with the rest of public services. UK, Canada and Australia have public broadcasters, and while fundamentally they are still tools of imperialist propaganda they are usually more accurate with their reporting and truthful with their journalism than the billionaire-owned ad-ridden slop. The rest could then be funded through a mix of grants, subscriptions and volunteers. Continuing with the MIC/wars analogy: "without MIC and wars to fund it we wouldn't have done the research for transistors/ICs/microwaves/radar/...". It's obviously a false dichotomy designed to normalize wars of aggression. It's the same here, brainworm slop and paid slop are not the only two alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hector@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago (5 children) Without ads all news is subscription. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Or we could do the sensible thing and make a few taxpayer-funded news agencies, same as with the rest of public services. UK, Canada and Australia have public broadcasters, and while fundamentally they are still tools of imperialist propaganda they are usually more accurate with their reporting and truthful with their journalism than the billionaire-owned ad-ridden slop. The rest could then be funded through a mix of grants, subscriptions and volunteers. Continuing with the MIC/wars analogy: "without MIC and wars to fund it we wouldn't have done the research for transistors/ICs/microwaves/radar/...". It's obviously a false dichotomy designed to normalize wars of aggression. It's the same here, brainworm slop and paid slop are not the only two alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children) Or we could do the sensible thing and make a few taxpayer-funded news agencies, same as with the rest of public services. UK, Canada and Australia have public broadcasters, and while fundamentally they are still tools of imperialist propaganda they are usually more accurate with their reporting and truthful with their journalism than the billionaire-owned ad-ridden slop. The rest could then be funded through a mix of grants, subscriptions and volunteers. Continuing with the MIC/wars analogy: "without MIC and wars to fund it we wouldn't have done the research for transistors/ICs/microwaves/radar/...". It's obviously a false dichotomy designed to normalize wars of aggression. It's the same here, brainworm slop and paid slop are not the only two alternatives. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago (3 children) The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent [–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child) The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government. The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Sorry, whose infrastructure are these gas pump advertisements propping up? Pretty sure this is just going towards lining someone's pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago I was just responding to 99% of advertisement being whatever. Obviously this one is bullshit, a lot of it's bullshit. Maybe most. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hector@lemmy.today 1 point 9 months ago I was just responding to 99% of advertisement being whatever. Obviously this one is bullshit, a lot of it's bullshit. Maybe most. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago (2 children) This screen serves ZERO public benefit. It's in a gas station, why would it? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 7101334@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 child) Why shouldn't it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago Why shouldn’t it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? You answered already: Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 7101334@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 child) Why shouldn't it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago Why shouldn’t it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? You answered already: Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago Why shouldn’t it? Or failing that, why should it be there at all? You answered already: Fuck capitalism, fuck the constant attempt to extract value from every single moment of our existence. Agreed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (6 children) If you don't know about automatic metal punches, they're a great solution to these fuckin' things. Small enough to be palmed and will punch right through a screen with little effort. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago Thank you for your service. permalink fedilink source parent [–] shithawk@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children) Yep.. brass punch. Graffiti mop with a metal tip full of brake fluid/ink combo does some fun stuff too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child) Hang on, that's just a bingo dotter... edit: God I forgot how much I hate what the graffiti community has become. "Oh just etch your tag in so it will be harder to remove" what fucking dipshit toy came up with that? Did impermanence just get forgotten? Where did the obsession about not getting buffed come from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shithawk@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago As someone who does slaps, I'm no stranger to the idea of temporariness nor do I really try to combat it. My work sticks around then disappears, as I will eventually myself. As for the obsession of not getting buffed who knows, likely born out of the gang affiliated side of graffiti, same boneheads who fight people physically over turf, etc.. But since we were discussing obstructive protest I think it's worth a mention. Speaking of which - don't get a weed sprayer off of Craigslist and fill it full of paint, that sort of thing could lead to no good. permalink fedilink source parent [–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Fuck me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago With a metal punch? That seems kinda... organ-burst-y permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago Thank you for your service. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shithawk@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children) Yep.. brass punch. Graffiti mop with a metal tip full of brake fluid/ink combo does some fun stuff too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child) Hang on, that's just a bingo dotter... edit: God I forgot how much I hate what the graffiti community has become. "Oh just etch your tag in so it will be harder to remove" what fucking dipshit toy came up with that? Did impermanence just get forgotten? Where did the obsession about not getting buffed come from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shithawk@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago As someone who does slaps, I'm no stranger to the idea of temporariness nor do I really try to combat it. My work sticks around then disappears, as I will eventually myself. As for the obsession of not getting buffed who knows, likely born out of the gang affiliated side of graffiti, same boneheads who fight people physically over turf, etc.. But since we were discussing obstructive protest I think it's worth a mention. Speaking of which - don't get a weed sprayer off of Craigslist and fill it full of paint, that sort of thing could lead to no good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child) Hang on, that's just a bingo dotter... edit: God I forgot how much I hate what the graffiti community has become. "Oh just etch your tag in so it will be harder to remove" what fucking dipshit toy came up with that? Did impermanence just get forgotten? Where did the obsession about not getting buffed come from? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] shithawk@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago As someone who does slaps, I'm no stranger to the idea of temporariness nor do I really try to combat it. My work sticks around then disappears, as I will eventually myself. As for the obsession of not getting buffed who knows, likely born out of the gang affiliated side of graffiti, same boneheads who fight people physically over turf, etc.. But since we were discussing obstructive protest I think it's worth a mention. Speaking of which - don't get a weed sprayer off of Craigslist and fill it full of paint, that sort of thing could lead to no good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] shithawk@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago As someone who does slaps, I'm no stranger to the idea of temporariness nor do I really try to combat it. My work sticks around then disappears, as I will eventually myself. As for the obsession of not getting buffed who knows, likely born out of the gang affiliated side of graffiti, same boneheads who fight people physically over turf, etc.. But since we were discussing obstructive protest I think it's worth a mention. Speaking of which - don't get a weed sprayer off of Craigslist and fill it full of paint, that sort of thing could lead to no good. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Fuck me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago With a metal punch? That seems kinda... organ-burst-y permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago With a metal punch? That seems kinda... organ-burst-y permalink fedilink source parent
[–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago Yes this is an invitation to it. Destroy that shit. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago (2 children) This was reported but I don't think it warrants censorship. If you're taking this more seriously than it should be, just keep in mind that there will likely be legal consequences since gas stations frequently have plenty of cameras and ask yourself if this hill is worth dying on. You'll get charged and they'll just replace the damn things anyways. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Lmao, was my comment the only one reported? Because this whole thread is people saying to vandalize it. 😂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, not sure why yours in particular was the only one, probably timing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works 1 point 9 months ago (1 child) Lmao, was my comment the only one reported? Because this whole thread is people saying to vandalize it. 😂 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, not sure why yours in particular was the only one, probably timing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 point 9 months ago Yeah, not sure why yours in particular was the only one, probably timing. permalink fedilink source parent