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We can't even pump fuel anymore without holding a digital billboard (Netherlands) (i.redd.it)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/assholedesign@lemmy.world
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[–] 0 points 9 months ago (9 children)

All right well I hate to disagree but advertisements do support a lot of websites and news organizations, or at least they used to before the tech Giants took most of the advertising money.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    The question is not whether they support a business model, it's whether they are good for humanity. And they are bad for humanity from a socioeconomic perspective because it is labor power spent with negative net use value produced.

    Compare it with imperialist wars: they are the business model of the entire MIC, and yet I hope you agree that wars of aggression are bad.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Without ads all news is subscription.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Or we could do the sensible thing and make a few taxpayer-funded news agencies, same as with the rest of public services. UK, Canada and Australia have public broadcasters, and while fundamentally they are still tools of imperialist propaganda they are usually more accurate with their reporting and truthful with their journalism than the billionaire-owned ad-ridden slop.

    The rest could then be funded through a mix of grants, subscriptions and volunteers.

    Continuing with the MIC/wars analogy: "without MIC and wars to fund it we wouldn't have done the research for transistors/ICs/microwaves/radar/...". It's obviously a false dichotomy designed to normalize wars of aggression. It's the same here, brainworm slop and paid slop are not the only two alternatives.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    The government broadcaster would not work in the United States period It's bad enough in the UK and Canada comma although I like their public broadcasters to a degree Comma with their Israel bullshit though, and that is just the start. In this country? It would be a fucking nightmare. They would appoint like Fox News producers to lead it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    The principle in the UK is almost sound. Take taxpayer money and give it to an NGO. Though they do it through a separate "licence" company which is a parasite, the original idea was so it could demonstrate at all levels it was independent of government interference. Rather like US democracy, it hasn't worked out as well as it should have, but that doesn't mean it's not a reasonable idea in the future.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    The US still does have an OK "public broadcaster" - PBS (even though it's mostly not known for "news"). It wasn't run by Fox News hosts either, it produced some fairly progressive or at least pro-scientific content. However it is getting destroyed right now, precisely because it doesn't fit the agenda of the current government.

    The only solution to this is aligning the government with the people. I'm afraid revolution is the only way to do this (although there is a tiny sliver of hope that it can be resolved without too much violence). Until then ad-"supported" news won't save you, because they are all fundamentally capitalist. Iskra didn't have ads in it.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    It is much much too late to save the country I'm afraid. Even now we fight under control deposition and most of you will viciously shout down anybody wanting a winning strategy with our perhaps last chance to take it back in the succession fight.

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