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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

When's the last time you read the definition of ideal? In real life they are targets, goals you'll never achieve.

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[–] 14specks@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The founding ideal of the United States is unlimited "westward expansion" (complete exploitation of the land and the genocide of indigenous people). The United States has been incredibly effective at achieving this. This is not a fringe interpretation of history, it is relayed in the first episode of the PBS Revolutionary War documentary that came out last year.

"Freedom, equality, and liberty" or whatever may be your values, but in practice they never were intended for people who weren't part of the white, christian, landowning male class who founded the United States.

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[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Show me an nation that does not have this dark history. Acknowledge it and aim to do better. That's all anyone can do.

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[–] 14specks@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Haiti
Vietnam
Ghana
Bolivia
Fiji

"Acknowledge and move on" is an extremely bad take if you know the facts about the genocide of American Indians (and Canadian First Nations) and how it is essentially ongoing in 2026. "Dark past" is not an accurate view of the situation. It is also unique to being a settler-colonial project, not something that is common to all countries.

It leads to an extremely unstable state as we can see from the three most recent presidential elections. The state wants to colonize itself because it ran out of other countries to exploit. That's what fascism is (ice raids and shit being a prominent symptom).

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