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[–] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Liberalism is the ideology of capitalism. They emerged together and the former was formed to justify the latter. Over the years it has branched out and there are many forms such as classical liberalism, neoliberalism, social liberalism, etc. but they all defend capitalist property rights and the market. Socialism emerged as the working class response to/critique of liberalism. In the US the term only refers to social liberals, who are in reality centrists. Americans call them leftists only because centrists are slightly to the left of right-wing politics.

We're against liberalism as a whole because it's the ideology that justifies capitalism. We're against social liberals because they're seen as fence-sitting cowards and dangerous compromisers.


This is a very introductory overview to liberalism:

The most in-depth delving into it is Losurdo's Liberalism - A counter history, but you'd have to read many more foundational texts before that one.

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    How many books on this topic have you read? Are you aware of the conflicts between liberals and workers, prisoners, women, and colonized people for over 200 years? Do you know the history of the working class movement and its history of conflicts with liberals since the mid 1800s?

    Any one of us can answer these questions. You clearly can't.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago

    You read books but do you read current news? Most of the world is still debating if they should be free of the government which is a binary that very much places liberalism on the left.

    Why are you holding such a Eurocentric perspective in face of the fact that most are not having the anticapitalist vs capitalist discussion you seem to think they are having?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    the right to private property

    Wow that sounds sooo leftist. I think you're about 150 years late in defining liberalism as "the left"

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