▲ 580 ▼ OnePlus update blocks downgrades and custom ROMs by blowing a fuse (consumerrights.wiki) submitted 9 months ago by Beep@lemmus.org to c/technology@lemmy.world 112 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -14 points 9 months ago (10 children) Still custom as it's not the default permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Mycenaman@lemmy.ml 32 points 9 months ago (5 children) What makes it "custom"? If you install Linux on a laptop that comes with Windows pre-installed, is Linux then a custom OS it's not being a default? Why phones are any different? Calling it custom you play to the manufacturers pockets making it sound shady and unofficial giving them right to take the control from the customers devices. Soon we won't own anything we buy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago I've never thought a custom ROM sounded shady. To me it was always, "we only have vanilla or chocolate on the menu, but if you're willing to risk bricking your phone, you can get cookies and cream." I picked cookies and cream. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago On PC it is usually called "other" permalink fedilink source parent [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 child) Because for phones they kinda are custom. The smartphone hardware landscape is an absolute clusterfuck of proprietary blobs and closed source drivers and all sorts of shit that makes it so you need a lot of work to customize the base os to work on any particular device. ROMs have rather short lists of compatible phones, and each one of those had to have a build specifically developed for them. You can't take, say, grapheneos and slap it on any phone you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mycenaman@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago The same applies to every pre-installed OS. They are all customized from AOSP, but only third-party operating systems are called such. That was my point there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 9 months ago To me it feels more like a full appliance as it's not even intended primarily to install anything else. But I can also see your point as a valid argument. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (3 children) Installing linux on your Dell that came with Windows isn't "Installing a custom OS." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 9 months ago (2 children) Not IMO for phones but hey, it's a free world ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 child) You've been trained well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago Bruh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mycenaman@lemmy.ml 32 points 9 months ago (5 children) What makes it "custom"? If you install Linux on a laptop that comes with Windows pre-installed, is Linux then a custom OS it's not being a default? Why phones are any different? Calling it custom you play to the manufacturers pockets making it sound shady and unofficial giving them right to take the control from the customers devices. Soon we won't own anything we buy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago I've never thought a custom ROM sounded shady. To me it was always, "we only have vanilla or chocolate on the menu, but if you're willing to risk bricking your phone, you can get cookies and cream." I picked cookies and cream. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago On PC it is usually called "other" permalink fedilink source parent [–] herrvogel@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 child) Because for phones they kinda are custom. The smartphone hardware landscape is an absolute clusterfuck of proprietary blobs and closed source drivers and all sorts of shit that makes it so you need a lot of work to customize the base os to work on any particular device. ROMs have rather short lists of compatible phones, and each one of those had to have a build specifically developed for them. You can't take, say, grapheneos and slap it on any phone you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mycenaman@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago The same applies to every pre-installed OS. They are all customized from AOSP, but only third-party operating systems are called such. That was my point there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 9 months ago To me it feels more like a full appliance as it's not even intended primarily to install anything else. But I can also see your point as a valid argument. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago I've never thought a custom ROM sounded shady. To me it was always, "we only have vanilla or chocolate on the menu, but if you're willing to risk bricking your phone, you can get cookies and cream." I picked cookies and cream. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago On PC it is usually called "other" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 child) Because for phones they kinda are custom. The smartphone hardware landscape is an absolute clusterfuck of proprietary blobs and closed source drivers and all sorts of shit that makes it so you need a lot of work to customize the base os to work on any particular device. ROMs have rather short lists of compatible phones, and each one of those had to have a build specifically developed for them. You can't take, say, grapheneos and slap it on any phone you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Mycenaman@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago The same applies to every pre-installed OS. They are all customized from AOSP, but only third-party operating systems are called such. That was my point there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mycenaman@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago The same applies to every pre-installed OS. They are all customized from AOSP, but only third-party operating systems are called such. That was my point there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 9 months ago To me it feels more like a full appliance as it's not even intended primarily to install anything else. But I can also see your point as a valid argument. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (3 children) Installing linux on your Dell that came with Windows isn't "Installing a custom OS." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 9 months ago (2 children) Not IMO for phones but hey, it's a free world ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 child) You've been trained well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago Bruh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 9 months ago (2 children) Not IMO for phones but hey, it's a free world ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 child) You've been trained well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago Bruh. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 child) You've been trained well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 9 months ago Bruh. permalink fedilink source parent