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ELI5 How is this legal? Doesn't the constitution give us the right to tell them piss off? (www.yahoo.com)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/explainlikeimfive@lemmy.world
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[–] 170 points 9 months ago (12 children)

It isn’t legal. And they haven’t changed the law. It’s just now their policy to ignore the law.

Right now they’re trying to “shock and awe” everyone into submission and compliance before the law catches up with them.

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago* (11 children)

    What do you want to bet at some point when ICE and Miller go too far that whistleblowers inside ICE dig up the lists of the recent hires and slip them off to the various states that they are active in, for the states to bring charges?

    Good gravy, if I was working in an ICE office, you BET that surrpetitiously making backups of all the HR files documenting which people are going where, would be my main agenda.

    Trump can pardon all he wants, but the states can still make these goose-stepping fuckers pay..

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    They are 100% going to leave these morons holding the bag. They are pulling shit like SHOWING them a hard copy of these orders and then keeping it so there is zero evidence linking their conduct back to their leadership. The buck stops with the dumbasses on the ground.

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  • [–] 53 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    What do you want to bet at some point when ICE and Miller go too far that whistleblowers inside ICE dig up the lists of the recent hires and slip them off to the various states that they are active in, for the states to bring charges?

    A short while back they murdered an innocent civilian by shooting her in the face and just recently kidnapped a 5 year old child.

    If neither of those was "too far" then there is no "too far" for them. There will be no whistle blowers. ICE is evil.

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't discount the possibility of whistleblowers. Even in Nazi Germany there were people who needed time to follow their conscience - those who only comply out of fear of personal consequences might still find the courage to do what is right.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    I'm thinking it's likely to happen once a point has been reached that the Trump Administration is distracted and/or weak enough that a whistleblower can come forwards and do so without ending up in a Federal prison. It's not going to happen anytime soon, but once the cracks in the administration get too large to paint over..

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Them rounding up people and denying them their fundamental rights was too far for me. I've tried organizing locally, with my friends, etc. to try and form a defensive community. No one seemed at all concerned. As well ICE isn't openly operating in my area because Trump has basically admitted he's doing this to blue states and cities. Mine is ruby red.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    A lot of people who could do more are still doing the math between being complicit in this and ruining their lives, which is a real possibility if they act before securing some kind of support from the opposition or a resistance movement gets more organized. They'll have to be convinced the risk is worth it and action could result real change before they go for it.

    The problem isn't necessarily finding people opposed to what's happening, but making them believe that change can happen and they'll be alright in the end if they join the resistance.

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