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DockFrame is a modular USB-C dock that supports Framework Expansion cards (liliputing.com)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/framework@lemmy.ca
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[–] 9 points 9 months ago (18 children)

I am very dissatisfied with my Framework 12. It just discharges when not in use. From 100% to completely empty over one night.

I might look at repurposing the expansion cards through one of these.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    Well that sucks, have you talked to framework support about it?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    It is a well known problem with no real fix what I've read.

    But I might give the support a try. Pretty sure they'll just point me towards the articles I've already read though.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    If it is a well-known problem, it's not universal. Mine doesn't do this. I'm running openSUSE Tumbleweed.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Same, I'm on Fedora Silverblue (which should be much more similar to Bazzite) on my Framework 12 and haven't experienced this. I regularly leave my laptop lying around off the charger for 3-4 days (will maybe wake it up for 10-15 minutes at a time every so often during) and it'll still be running.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Wake it up? You mean turn it on? My fw13 running Bluefin (preconfigured silverblue), will be almost dead after 24 hours "sleeping".

    Now I set the battery max to 60 and leave it plugged in all the time. If I'm gonna take it somewhere I turn it off to transport.

    Sleep just doesn't work right 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

    Wake it up? You mean turn it on?

    Yup, waking it from suspend.

    I checked on my machine in detail, and was surprised to find that it's using suspend-to-idle/s2idle, not even deep sleep. Deep sleep should save even more battery life, at the expense of requiring a couple extra seconds to wake from suspend (and at least on my Framework 12, requiring pressing the power button to wake rather than just opening the screen and/or pressing any keys)

    cat /sys/power/mem_sleep should show you what your machine supports, and you can e.g. echo "deep" > /sys/power/mem_sleep as root to change this. I've tested both on my Framework 12 running Silverblue 43 and they both seem to function fine, though I'll leave my machine in s2idle as I'm not in particular need of maximizing my battery life (this laptop for me is currently homebound so battery life isn't the highest priority).

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    Thanks for the write up!

    mem_sleep shows only s2idle, so I suppose that's all I get. I don't know why it's so inefficient. Very annoying to forget to turn it off before I take it somewhere.

    I love my framework, but it feels like modern technology should better than older technology.

    Don't get me started on the loss of hibernate 🤦‍♂️

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    What OS are you running on it?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Bazzite

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago*

    As a fellow Linux laptop (and Bazzite on a HTPC) user, this is a constant risk.

    If things are configured correctly (including kernel parameters, etc), you should be losing something like 5% per day on standby. It's very unlikely a hardware issue if you're losing more than that in standby but the battery is fine under normal operation.

    Aside from contacting support, I would try a more stable and slow moving distro and see if they have the same issue.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Well that kinda sucks :(

    My 13 has an issue with the trackpad I've been meaning to bring up with support but I missed the warranty window, so I'll get around to it eventually

    I hope you find a resolution for your problem somehow, that blows

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Maybe this is a silly question, but are you able to/do you remove the battery when not in use? Doesn't solve the underlying issue, but you'd at least still have a functional battery.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Well, yeah but then my laptop wouldn't be at all portable any more..

    The battery is simple to remove, but it is not without tools and some time.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Gotcha, so it's not the type you can just pop in and out. I was imagining it was like some models you'd find in the 2010s, but if it's all internal, that does make it more difficult.

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