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[–] 17 points 10 months ago* (37 children)

And how are we going to do that? By asking politely? Waving more signs? Marches?

Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.

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  • [–] [S] 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    If you want people to vote for us when there isn't a Republican in the White House then we need to push for leaders who

    1. Consistently tell people Republicans are bad people with bad ideas.
    2. Tell people creating ICE and DHS were Republican ideas and they need to be gotten rid of because Republicans have bad ideas.
    3. Tell people things were better back in the 90s before ICE existed because we didn't let Republicans' bad ideas ruin everything and we could just go back to what we were doing then.
    4. Publicly disown anyone who tries to campaign with Republicans or says anything positive about them.

    Deviating from those things only loses us votes.

    e; deleted something that was needlessly proactive

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago*

    we could just go back to what we were doing then.

    Except what you were doing in the 90s directly led to what you're doing right now. You can't press freeze on history; that's not how systemic problems work. The solution to the problems of the present lies in the future (and leftist commie socialism), not the past.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    It doesn't matter how people vote if none of their available options wants to do this.

    Articles like this are how you get people to sell candidates that have this position.

    I guess it's just easier to whine about shit though.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    If you think you’re limited in your options to represent you in government, then it’s not the land of the free.

    It may seem like there’s only two viable options, and those two options will do all in their power to convince people of that, but anyone can be elected if they gain enough support. There are independents after all, and primaries still count for something too, if enough people show up to vote.

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  • [+] -15 points 10 months ago (27 children)
  • [–] [S] 4 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, the way it's phrased it definitely seems like they want to make things worse by blaming voters for behaving like voters instead of focusing criticism on the elected officials who refuse to really attack the Republican party and its policies and end up demoralizing everyone

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (25 children)

    Well, then please teach me how to talk like a winner. Seriously.

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (24 children)

    I can’t, but you could take this opportunity to stop posting quitter comments online. Just go away if you can’t help

    And if “WE’RE FUCKED NO MATTER WHAT WE DO” is all you have to say, you have nothing to say

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    He literally posted a solution. Nothing about what he said was quitting, he was telling people what doesn't work. You know what also doesn't work? Negative comments on Lemmy. Relatively no one is reading this, and you are are just being aggressive. Relax.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    He literally posted a solution

    Where?

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution.

    There. Right there. In the comment. Right there in the comment where he said, "Actually convincing people to fucking vote is the only peaceful solution." That's the part.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    He said we need to vote

    You say we just need to talk like winners on the internet

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    At no point did anyone in a thread I replied to say we need to vote, I think you’re too upset about this now

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    You're talking to 2 different people. Instigating people in bad faith and then trying to call them out about being emotional in their frustrated response is pretty childish, isn't it? You claim that giving up and making negative comments online is detrimental to the cause, but trolling allies probably doesn't help either.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (8 children)

    That's literally what you're saying.

    Try providing actual plans.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I’m saying there’s no value in adding doomer loser noise to the signal.

    Adding a positive is positive, reducing a negative is also a positive. I’m reducing a negative by asking these helpless bleating losers to be less unhelpful and vocal.

    I’m happy and open to having a positive and constructive conversation, but they don’t start with rude challenges

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Adding a positive is positive, reducing a negative is also a positive. I’m reducing a negative by asking these helpless bleating losers to be less unhelpful and vocal.

    Lol, telling someone who is claiming the solution is to convince people to vote a loser is positive?

    I mean that's just the truth...... You can't make changes to the organization of the executive branch without securing the support of both the executive and Congress.

    Maybe instead of loosing your shit about people being looser doomers, you might just want to read a book about civics.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You’re commenting on an edit, so I can excuse your tone, but you’re late to the party

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    You’re commenting on an edit

    Do you not stand by your edit, what's the problem here?

    I can excuse your tone

    You just can't muster a rebuttal?

    late to the party

    Lol, now that's some weak loser shit. Why even respond if you don't have anything to say that actually defends your claims?

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