I'd love to hear everyone's ideas for how we can improve the way pronouns are shown in PieFed. Please let me know if this is the wrong place for this question and send people here if you think they'd like to contribute.

Currently, you can put pronouns in your display name, and in the extra fields on your profile. Display name federates fine to everywhere while extra fields only with Mastodon and friends. Like this:

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Can we do better, though? How would you like it?

e.g. when showing a popup card, the pronouns in the extra fields could be more prominent, up near the name near the top?

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Or maybe when someone is replying to you, the placeholder text inside the text entry field (before they start typing) could say what your pronouns are? Like this:

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Those are just ideas to start a discussion, not options to choose from - maybe you have something completely different in mind?

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[–] 2 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

I like the placeholder text in the screenshot, but it will disappear during typing. So the pronouns should be displayed elsewhere, which is my issue with how its displayed in the image. If I need to refer to you by pronouns in paragraph 2, the placeholder is no longer there to refer back to. Perhaps a heading for replies or replacing the reply button with, "reply to [display name](p/n)," could be worth considering. But showing the pronouns integrated into the interface, and at the time users will use them is a great idea.

However its handled, I think interoperability with other fediverse platforms is very important. I know of many times that some platforms or apps didn't display pronouns to some users, which lead to misgendering and other issues. If it's feasible, an implementation that reduces that possibility would be good.

Another possibility I would like to bring to the discussion, if possible, would be an ability to choose who the pronouns are shown to. There are people out there that I would prefer not be informed of my pronouns. An option to only show pronouns to only users of the local instance, or only other users who have themselves set pronouns, would be appreciated.

I use some websites where pronouns are handled by a third party browser add-on. Because it's opt in, I can be reasonably assured that anyone with listed pronouns will be an ally, and those who are not will lack the means to use that information against me. If feasible, the ability to replicate that functionality would be nice.

Thank you for reaching out and asking for our input. Probably going to migrate my account to piefed soon!

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

    Another possibility I would like to bring to the discussion, if possible, would be an ability to choose who the pronouns are shown to.

    It could be made so your pronouns would only show up to users who also chose their pronouns. Most transphobes won't bother with setting it up anyway.

    edit: poor wording

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Is that in its current implementation? Apologies I have not yet switched over, and don't know piefed specifics.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    No, I just worded that comment incorrectly :)

    It COULD be made so.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Thx for the clarification! Only showing pronouns to others with pronouns, and users of the same instance were the two specific cases I mentioned later in the initial comment. I feel certain that users with pronouns and users on blahaj are not transphobes!

    I however am unfamiliar with any of the technical specifics behind the fediverse. Could be impossible, infeasible, or easy. We'll see!

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Only showing pronouns to others with pronouns, and users of the same instance were the two specific cases I mentioned later in the initial comment.

    Oh, you're right, that part somehow escaped my attention 😅

    I however am unfamiliar with any of the technical specifics behind the fediverse. Could be impossible, infeasible, or easy. We’ll see!

    I suspect the hardest part is to make it work with Lemmy too as well as all the mobile apps.

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