ICE Out for Good vigils and rallies are being tracked online by Indivisible, the group behind the No Kings protests

More than a thousand protests are planned across the US this Saturday and Sunday after an ICE agent killed US citizen Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis this week.

“This weekend, people all over are coming together not just to mourn the lives lost to ICE violence, but to confront a pattern of harm that has torn families apart and terrorized our communities,” said Leah Greenberg, co-executive director of Indivisible, an organizer of “ICE Out for Good Weekend of Action”.

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[–] 3 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Organizing and voting is the action.

A revolution is a pipe dream, it's not happening.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (10 children)

    I've been alive through this before...

    1969-1976
    1981-1992
    2001-2008
    2017-2020
    2025-2028

    There have only been a few Democratic breaks:

    1977-1980
    1993-2000
    2008-2016
    2021-2024

    It will likely flip back in 2028, but we have to flip the House back in 2026, ideally the House and Senate but that's unlikely.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (8 children)

    It will likely flip back in 2028, but we have to flip the House back in 2026, ideally the House and Senate but that's unlikely.

    JFC, that's the solution? Wait 10 months and hopefully flip house but probably not the Senate?

    Then everything returns to the stagnant status quo that resulted in this situation in the first place. Dems continue to be toothless, Republicans continue to prevent anything from happening, continue to face zero consequences, and are further emboldened to go even further next time because why the fuck not? Either they succeeded in the fascist takeover or nothing happens and they just try again.

    That's the best you can hope for?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (7 children)

    That's the only recourse short of a revolution or a civil war which would be 1000x more destructive.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    If going back to doing nothing and kicking the can down the road is the only way to avoid a civil war then I have bad news for you: you're not avoiding anything, you're just trying to delay it for another 4 years while things continue to get worse and more people get killed.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (5 children)

    "More people" = < 20 vs a civil war with tens to hundreds of thousands dead? 🤔

    The last civil war we had killed 600,000 to 700,000 and that's without modern weapons.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    The last civil war we had killed 600,000 to 700,000 and that's without modern weapons.

    I agree, as time goes on a Civil war gets more destructive.

    Therefore, delaying a civil war by 4-8 years will result in more destruction than if citizens stand up for themselves now. Either way, according to your arguments the civil war will happen eventually.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Citizens ARE standing up for themselves now, that's what the protests and elections are for. 😉

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Protests are only taking action if they are disruptive. Standing in a corner with signs while people go about their day is as effective as sharing memes on Lemmy.

    Wait for Elections is waiting 10 months, not taking action now.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Disruptive protests only turn off your intended audience. You THINK you're disrupting the powers that be, you aren't, they take no notice of you and you turn away the people who would ordinarily be on your side.

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