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[–] 27 points 10 months ago (24 children)

IIRC correctly, they were so checked out, working on potential future projects (that were also fucking terrible), that they had most of the work passed off to others?

Honestly though, I blame the author. GOT was great until they ran out of source material. Then you saw how terrible D&D really are at this. MF still hasn't finished the series. If you can't finish it, then don't fucking start it.

Maybe Sanderson can pick up the mantle for this one too.

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  • [–] 71 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Not to disagree on the topic but “if you can’t finnish it, don’t start it” is absolutely horrible advice when its about a creative art like writing.

    If i am not wrong there is a whole writing style about just starting without knowing yourself where its going to end.

    I highly dislike capitalism but i can see that once you have enough material to sell some of it, even if incomplete as a series. Many people would take the opportunity. I don’t know the authors economic background but for a starving artist with high potential that first book sales could be the push required to finish a series.

    I blame capitalism, both for putting artists in this position and for the disrespect of big media towards their own content quality. Its always the money must flow, at every cost!

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Look at it this way.

    He was clearly starting to stall in his later books, taking so long to get them out, and instead of starting to wrap up the storyline, he started introducing new elements.

    I understand why he hasn't moved forward, but I've lost all interest in ever picking up another book of his. The terrible writing by D&D certainly didn't help.

    My feelings of frustration are valid and my criticism is not unfounded.

    I do appreciate your thoughtful response, thank you

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Sanderson is a bad pick and has said himself that he can't do grimdark. Just because he's prolific doesn't mean he should be the de facto pick to finish series.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They were fucking it up well before they ran out of source material. See: the confected drama of bran and Jon almost meeting North of the wall

    Sanderson would be god awful at completing it and has specifically said he wouldn't.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    That's a wild take on writing lmao. If you're not sure the author will finish it, don't start reading it.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago*

    I think they meant don't start adapting an unfinished property. A certain transphobic author had issues because the studios really needed her to finish books 5, 6, and 7, so they could hit their schedule of 1 movie per year for 8 years.

    Edit: based on replies from the original commenter it seems that your interpretation was correct.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    If you have a problem with unfinished works, don't ingest them until they're finished. The artist doesn't owe you anything.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I didn't say anything remotely close to saying artists owed me anything. Dude bit off more than he can chew.

    I have a right to be frustrated when I'm invested in a story and it just stops.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Similarly he had a right to not finish the book- what you don't have is a right to tell other people what to do.

    If you can't finish it, then don't fucking start it.

    This is neither a simple expression of frustration nor is it a criticism.

    It is a command.

    Hence why you're being called entitled.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (5 children)

    You need to let it go, or get over whatever this weird outrage this is that you are having.

    I can feel however I want, you don't get to gatekeep that.

    I didn't tell George RR Martin to do anything. I said a line on a social media forum.

    You are choosing to take my words in the way you are describing and not in the way I intended. That is a form of manipulation and gas lighting. Especially after I clarified.

    Who called me entitled? I guess I missed that. That's a weird take, whoever said it.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (4 children)

    You need to let it go, or get over whatever this weird outrage this is that you are having.

    You don't have a right to command me, either. Lol.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    "You need..."

    Is not a command...

    You keep placing false intent and meaning. That is a form of manipulation and gas lighting.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    If it's not a command, what is it? A warning? Why do I need to let "it" go? Get over what weird outrage? Why do I need to do any of these things? Why are you telling me I need to do this? It is a command, stop trying to gaslight me into thinking I'm gaslighting you.

    You are the one who is outraged. People told you that your reason for being angry is because you had an unfair expectation. You are welcome to try and manipulate the realities of the situation as you like, but that is what happened.

    You keep placing false intent and meaning. That is a form of manipulation and gas lighting.

    Incredibly weird and hilariously ironic.

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