▲ 254 ▼ withers, use the amnesia ray 20th Century History (quokk.au) submitted 10 months ago by Deceptichum to c/historymemes@piefed.social 15 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago (3 children) Libertarians permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 11 points 10 months ago* (2 children) Try Marxist-Leninists. I literally had this exact conversation the other day with two .ml users... They were trying to claim communism "actually totally works" because Russia/China/etcetc have proven it ... except they're not communist countries. They then went on to explain that, "no aktually having a ruling party that continues to segregate the population and elevate and protect their own positions is totally communism! You need to read more theory, because there has to be a transition to communism ..." blah blah blah... They're literally too stupid to understand OP's joke. They unironically think that stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcticx@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) The withering of the state as a concept is a foundational part of ML theory and it does seem as though you’re being intentionally obtuse. I don’t think you would run into a ton of people who believe that OPs meme is an implausible situation as this is the exact reason continuous revolution exists as a concept. The transitional state has to be scrutinized so as not to become a tool of bourgeois capitalism once more. So yeah to echo what the others said to you: you should read more theory. Your understanding of these concepts seems to be more memetic than anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago* lol No, my understanding is not lacking. I know what ML prescribes and imagines. I disagree it's such a hopeful premise IRL. It's also stupid to call any transitionary period 'communism' itself, either, much like supposedly China today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 11 points 10 months ago* (2 children) Try Marxist-Leninists. I literally had this exact conversation the other day with two .ml users... They were trying to claim communism "actually totally works" because Russia/China/etcetc have proven it ... except they're not communist countries. They then went on to explain that, "no aktually having a ruling party that continues to segregate the population and elevate and protect their own positions is totally communism! You need to read more theory, because there has to be a transition to communism ..." blah blah blah... They're literally too stupid to understand OP's joke. They unironically think that stuff. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] arcticx@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) The withering of the state as a concept is a foundational part of ML theory and it does seem as though you’re being intentionally obtuse. I don’t think you would run into a ton of people who believe that OPs meme is an implausible situation as this is the exact reason continuous revolution exists as a concept. The transitional state has to be scrutinized so as not to become a tool of bourgeois capitalism once more. So yeah to echo what the others said to you: you should read more theory. Your understanding of these concepts seems to be more memetic than anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago* lol No, my understanding is not lacking. I know what ML prescribes and imagines. I disagree it's such a hopeful premise IRL. It's also stupid to call any transitionary period 'communism' itself, either, much like supposedly China today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arcticx@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) The withering of the state as a concept is a foundational part of ML theory and it does seem as though you’re being intentionally obtuse. I don’t think you would run into a ton of people who believe that OPs meme is an implausible situation as this is the exact reason continuous revolution exists as a concept. The transitional state has to be scrutinized so as not to become a tool of bourgeois capitalism once more. So yeah to echo what the others said to you: you should read more theory. Your understanding of these concepts seems to be more memetic than anything. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago* lol No, my understanding is not lacking. I know what ML prescribes and imagines. I disagree it's such a hopeful premise IRL. It's also stupid to call any transitionary period 'communism' itself, either, much like supposedly China today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago* lol No, my understanding is not lacking. I know what ML prescribes and imagines. I disagree it's such a hopeful premise IRL. It's also stupid to call any transitionary period 'communism' itself, either, much like supposedly China today. permalink fedilink source parent
