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[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 15 points 10 months ago (7 children) Missing the LLM developer with billions of tokens to burn. developer developer are they tho? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago (6 children) script-kiddie 2.0? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dumnezero@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Close. A script is readable and editable code. The LLM slop is "deep" so it's opaque and you can't really change the system prompt (you can jailbreak it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (4 children) Script-kiddie is a derogatory term for a computer user who can't read or edit the code. Scripts might be useful to us, but they may as well be opaque to a script-kiddie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dumnezero@piefed.social 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Would you really claim that a script-kiddie won't alter a number or a string in some script? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children) For my definition of script-kiddie, its not that they won't change something, they by definition cannot because they dont understand it. We may have different definitions here, but that is the one I am familiar with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I'd say a script-kiddie can modify a script, but only if there's some resource that says 'change this part to do x'. They don't understand why that change does what it does, though, or how to troubleshoot if it doesn't actually do the thing. Signed: config file kiddie - I just do what youtube or forum denizens tell me to do until it works. Imagine there's script-kiddies out there that do something similar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago there’s some resource that says ‘change this part to do x’. Arguably, this is just a different type of script. I think the real separation is that while you might seek out a few different resources, or try a few alternatives to solve a problem, a "script-kiddie" is likely stuck if the first result in Google doesn't solve the problem immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 10 points 10 months ago (6 children) script-kiddie 2.0? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] dumnezero@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Close. A script is readable and editable code. The LLM slop is "deep" so it's opaque and you can't really change the system prompt (you can jailbreak it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (4 children) Script-kiddie is a derogatory term for a computer user who can't read or edit the code. Scripts might be useful to us, but they may as well be opaque to a script-kiddie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dumnezero@piefed.social 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Would you really claim that a script-kiddie won't alter a number or a string in some script? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children) For my definition of script-kiddie, its not that they won't change something, they by definition cannot because they dont understand it. We may have different definitions here, but that is the one I am familiar with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I'd say a script-kiddie can modify a script, but only if there's some resource that says 'change this part to do x'. They don't understand why that change does what it does, though, or how to troubleshoot if it doesn't actually do the thing. Signed: config file kiddie - I just do what youtube or forum denizens tell me to do until it works. Imagine there's script-kiddies out there that do something similar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago there’s some resource that says ‘change this part to do x’. Arguably, this is just a different type of script. I think the real separation is that while you might seek out a few different resources, or try a few alternatives to solve a problem, a "script-kiddie" is likely stuck if the first result in Google doesn't solve the problem immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (5 children) Close. A script is readable and editable code. The LLM slop is "deep" so it's opaque and you can't really change the system prompt (you can jailbreak it). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (4 children) Script-kiddie is a derogatory term for a computer user who can't read or edit the code. Scripts might be useful to us, but they may as well be opaque to a script-kiddie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dumnezero@piefed.social 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Would you really claim that a script-kiddie won't alter a number or a string in some script? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children) For my definition of script-kiddie, its not that they won't change something, they by definition cannot because they dont understand it. We may have different definitions here, but that is the one I am familiar with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I'd say a script-kiddie can modify a script, but only if there's some resource that says 'change this part to do x'. They don't understand why that change does what it does, though, or how to troubleshoot if it doesn't actually do the thing. Signed: config file kiddie - I just do what youtube or forum denizens tell me to do until it works. Imagine there's script-kiddies out there that do something similar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago there’s some resource that says ‘change this part to do x’. Arguably, this is just a different type of script. I think the real separation is that while you might seek out a few different resources, or try a few alternatives to solve a problem, a "script-kiddie" is likely stuck if the first result in Google doesn't solve the problem immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago (4 children) Script-kiddie is a derogatory term for a computer user who can't read or edit the code. Scripts might be useful to us, but they may as well be opaque to a script-kiddie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dumnezero@piefed.social 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Would you really claim that a script-kiddie won't alter a number or a string in some script? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children) For my definition of script-kiddie, its not that they won't change something, they by definition cannot because they dont understand it. We may have different definitions here, but that is the one I am familiar with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I'd say a script-kiddie can modify a script, but only if there's some resource that says 'change this part to do x'. They don't understand why that change does what it does, though, or how to troubleshoot if it doesn't actually do the thing. Signed: config file kiddie - I just do what youtube or forum denizens tell me to do until it works. Imagine there's script-kiddies out there that do something similar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago there’s some resource that says ‘change this part to do x’. Arguably, this is just a different type of script. I think the real separation is that while you might seek out a few different resources, or try a few alternatives to solve a problem, a "script-kiddie" is likely stuck if the first result in Google doesn't solve the problem immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dumnezero@piefed.social 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) Would you really claim that a script-kiddie won't alter a number or a string in some script? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children) For my definition of script-kiddie, its not that they won't change something, they by definition cannot because they dont understand it. We may have different definitions here, but that is the one I am familiar with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I'd say a script-kiddie can modify a script, but only if there's some resource that says 'change this part to do x'. They don't understand why that change does what it does, though, or how to troubleshoot if it doesn't actually do the thing. Signed: config file kiddie - I just do what youtube or forum denizens tell me to do until it works. Imagine there's script-kiddies out there that do something similar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago there’s some resource that says ‘change this part to do x’. Arguably, this is just a different type of script. I think the real separation is that while you might seek out a few different resources, or try a few alternatives to solve a problem, a "script-kiddie" is likely stuck if the first result in Google doesn't solve the problem immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children) For my definition of script-kiddie, its not that they won't change something, they by definition cannot because they dont understand it. We may have different definitions here, but that is the one I am familiar with. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I'd say a script-kiddie can modify a script, but only if there's some resource that says 'change this part to do x'. They don't understand why that change does what it does, though, or how to troubleshoot if it doesn't actually do the thing. Signed: config file kiddie - I just do what youtube or forum denizens tell me to do until it works. Imagine there's script-kiddies out there that do something similar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago there’s some resource that says ‘change this part to do x’. Arguably, this is just a different type of script. I think the real separation is that while you might seek out a few different resources, or try a few alternatives to solve a problem, a "script-kiddie" is likely stuck if the first result in Google doesn't solve the problem immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I'd say a script-kiddie can modify a script, but only if there's some resource that says 'change this part to do x'. They don't understand why that change does what it does, though, or how to troubleshoot if it doesn't actually do the thing. Signed: config file kiddie - I just do what youtube or forum denizens tell me to do until it works. Imagine there's script-kiddies out there that do something similar. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago there’s some resource that says ‘change this part to do x’. Arguably, this is just a different type of script. I think the real separation is that while you might seek out a few different resources, or try a few alternatives to solve a problem, a "script-kiddie" is likely stuck if the first result in Google doesn't solve the problem immediately. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago there’s some resource that says ‘change this part to do x’. Arguably, this is just a different type of script. I think the real separation is that while you might seek out a few different resources, or try a few alternatives to solve a problem, a "script-kiddie" is likely stuck if the first result in Google doesn't solve the problem immediately. permalink fedilink source parent