▲ 177 ▼ But these organizations are for peace, trust me! -liberals (lemmy.ml) submitted 10 months ago by bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml to c/memes@lemmy.ml 88 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk -31 points 10 months ago (31 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 31 child comments replies: [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago Is...is Putin in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago User Corporal_Punishment confirms hanging nazis is pro-Putin. Damn that's more trust than i have about the denazification of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 10 months ago (19 children) this meme is pro soviet hardly pro putin he isn't relevant to its statement, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -35 points 10 months ago* (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -26 points 10 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 child) The US being a one party state really broke liberals's brains into thinking that's the only possible political outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago Not even that, it's straight up "L'État, c'est moi" but not even as hyperbole, for those people its completely unironic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago* Is the USAmerican case being extrapolated? Similar to how the Democrats and Republicans are not relevant and Trump is USAmerica? Anyway, if that's the case for both, then it's pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago (1 child) You are one of the most propagandized people on earth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago Everyone who who disbelieves the State Department line is part of an ethnic slav conspiracy , and other copes for racists permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago Wait, do some folk think that Putin is a communist? Why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (10 children) except he is not trying to do that at all i mean it would be more accurate to say he is trying to restore the Russian empire that would be closer to accurate at least but not really that accurate either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -7 points 10 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (8 children) He's a hyper capitalist russian nationalist trying to expand his power and strengthen his position and maybe views it not as "his" but '"russian" power and position his thoughts don't matter. That's really nothing to do with soviet ideals or aesthetics other than a general nostalgia for being relevant he purposely denies soviet ideals any chance he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -15 points 10 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (6 children) What exactly do you think occurred in Russia in 1991? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (-1 replies) [–] davel@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world” Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It permalink fedilink source parent [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -24 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago Cppe permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (3 children) Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away The cynical con the Democratic Party and the F.B.I. carried out to falsely portray Donald Trump as a puppet of the Kremlin worked, and continues to work, because it is what those who detest Trump want to believe. IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming. MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes Matt Taibbi: CIA "Cooked The Intelligence" To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016 Aaron Maté: Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud Matt Taibbi: Note on New Trump-Russia Disclosures Thanks to explosive new document releases, the Russiagate hoax is now exposed, commencing a new era that will be about accountability for the guilty Matt Taibbi: No Doubt Left: Russiagate Was a Cover-Up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (2 children) For one, that it wasn’t much money at all and had no appreciable effect. Meanwhile the US spends billions on propaganda around the world each year, so much that no other country compares. And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one? Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world Literally the link you posted contradicts it Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters I feel like we're going in circles. Happy New Year! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -14 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry. I can't speak to you because .ml censors users. The only place on Lemmy that I've experienced censorship. Have fun with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago Nah dawg. I called out .ml and .ml doesn't like that. Again, only place on Lemmy I've experienced censorship. It's kind of like the /r/conservative of Lemmy. If your comment doesn't fit the narrative, it's censored. That's why .ml has the reputation it has. Have fun. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 31 points 10 months ago Is...is Putin in the room with us right now? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago User Corporal_Punishment confirms hanging nazis is pro-Putin. Damn that's more trust than i have about the denazification of Ukraine. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 10 months ago (19 children) this meme is pro soviet hardly pro putin he isn't relevant to its statement, permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -35 points 10 months ago* (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -26 points 10 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 child) The US being a one party state really broke liberals's brains into thinking that's the only possible political outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago Not even that, it's straight up "L'État, c'est moi" but not even as hyperbole, for those people its completely unironic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago* Is the USAmerican case being extrapolated? Similar to how the Democrats and Republicans are not relevant and Trump is USAmerica? Anyway, if that's the case for both, then it's pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago (1 child) You are one of the most propagandized people on earth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago Everyone who who disbelieves the State Department line is part of an ethnic slav conspiracy , and other copes for racists permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago Wait, do some folk think that Putin is a communist? Why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (10 children) except he is not trying to do that at all i mean it would be more accurate to say he is trying to restore the Russian empire that would be closer to accurate at least but not really that accurate either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -7 points 10 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (8 children) He's a hyper capitalist russian nationalist trying to expand his power and strengthen his position and maybe views it not as "his" but '"russian" power and position his thoughts don't matter. That's really nothing to do with soviet ideals or aesthetics other than a general nostalgia for being relevant he purposely denies soviet ideals any chance he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -15 points 10 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (6 children) What exactly do you think occurred in Russia in 1991? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -35 points 10 months ago* (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -26 points 10 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 child) The US being a one party state really broke liberals's brains into thinking that's the only possible political outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago Not even that, it's straight up "L'État, c'est moi" but not even as hyperbole, for those people its completely unironic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago* Is the USAmerican case being extrapolated? Similar to how the Democrats and Republicans are not relevant and Trump is USAmerica? Anyway, if that's the case for both, then it's pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago (1 child) You are one of the most propagandized people on earth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago Everyone who who disbelieves the State Department line is part of an ethnic slav conspiracy , and other copes for racists permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago Wait, do some folk think that Putin is a communist? Why? permalink fedilink source parent [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (10 children) except he is not trying to do that at all i mean it would be more accurate to say he is trying to restore the Russian empire that would be closer to accurate at least but not really that accurate either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -7 points 10 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (8 children) He's a hyper capitalist russian nationalist trying to expand his power and strengthen his position and maybe views it not as "his" but '"russian" power and position his thoughts don't matter. That's really nothing to do with soviet ideals or aesthetics other than a general nostalgia for being relevant he purposely denies soviet ideals any chance he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -15 points 10 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (6 children) What exactly do you think occurred in Russia in 1991? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -26 points 10 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 child) The US being a one party state really broke liberals's brains into thinking that's the only possible political outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago Not even that, it's straight up "L'État, c'est moi" but not even as hyperbole, for those people its completely unironic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago* Is the USAmerican case being extrapolated? Similar to how the Democrats and Republicans are not relevant and Trump is USAmerica? Anyway, if that's the case for both, then it's pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -26 points 10 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 child) The US being a one party state really broke liberals's brains into thinking that's the only possible political outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago Not even that, it's straight up "L'État, c'est moi" but not even as hyperbole, for those people its completely unironic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago* Is the USAmerican case being extrapolated? Similar to how the Democrats and Republicans are not relevant and Trump is USAmerica? Anyway, if that's the case for both, then it's pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 child) The US being a one party state really broke liberals's brains into thinking that's the only possible political outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago Not even that, it's straight up "L'État, c'est moi" but not even as hyperbole, for those people its completely unironic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 child) The US being a one party state really broke liberals's brains into thinking that's the only possible political outcome. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago Not even that, it's straight up "L'État, c'est moi" but not even as hyperbole, for those people its completely unironic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago Not even that, it's straight up "L'État, c'est moi" but not even as hyperbole, for those people its completely unironic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago* Is the USAmerican case being extrapolated? Similar to how the Democrats and Republicans are not relevant and Trump is USAmerica? Anyway, if that's the case for both, then it's pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago (1 child) You are one of the most propagandized people on earth permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago Everyone who who disbelieves the State Department line is part of an ethnic slav conspiracy , and other copes for racists permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago Everyone who who disbelieves the State Department line is part of an ethnic slav conspiracy , and other copes for racists permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago Everyone who who disbelieves the State Department line is part of an ethnic slav conspiracy , and other copes for racists permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago Wait, do some folk think that Putin is a communist? Why? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (10 children) except he is not trying to do that at all i mean it would be more accurate to say he is trying to restore the Russian empire that would be closer to accurate at least but not really that accurate either. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -7 points 10 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (8 children) He's a hyper capitalist russian nationalist trying to expand his power and strengthen his position and maybe views it not as "his" but '"russian" power and position his thoughts don't matter. That's really nothing to do with soviet ideals or aesthetics other than a general nostalgia for being relevant he purposely denies soviet ideals any chance he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -15 points 10 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (6 children) What exactly do you think occurred in Russia in 1991? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -7 points 10 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (8 children) He's a hyper capitalist russian nationalist trying to expand his power and strengthen his position and maybe views it not as "his" but '"russian" power and position his thoughts don't matter. That's really nothing to do with soviet ideals or aesthetics other than a general nostalgia for being relevant he purposely denies soviet ideals any chance he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -15 points 10 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (6 children) What exactly do you think occurred in Russia in 1991? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago (8 children) He's a hyper capitalist russian nationalist trying to expand his power and strengthen his position and maybe views it not as "his" but '"russian" power and position his thoughts don't matter. That's really nothing to do with soviet ideals or aesthetics other than a general nostalgia for being relevant he purposely denies soviet ideals any chance he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -15 points 10 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (6 children) What exactly do you think occurred in Russia in 1991? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -15 points 10 months ago (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (6 children) What exactly do you think occurred in Russia in 1991? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (6 children) What exactly do you think occurred in Russia in 1991? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -16 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent [–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago I'm genuinely speechless. Please open a fucking history book. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago This made me laugh, thank you very much. (it was capitalism, pick a book and read it. any book.) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) If you don’t know anything about anything then stop talking and start learning stuff about things. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_therapy_(economics)#Post-Communist_states permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago They could write studies about your idiocy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 21 points 10 months ago The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world” Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It permalink fedilink source parent
[+] minorkeys@lemmy.world -24 points 10 months ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago Cppe permalink fedilink source parent [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (3 children) Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away The cynical con the Democratic Party and the F.B.I. carried out to falsely portray Donald Trump as a puppet of the Kremlin worked, and continues to work, because it is what those who detest Trump want to believe. IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming. MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes Matt Taibbi: CIA "Cooked The Intelligence" To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016 Aaron Maté: Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud Matt Taibbi: Note on New Trump-Russia Disclosures Thanks to explosive new document releases, the Russiagate hoax is now exposed, commencing a new era that will be about accountability for the guilty Matt Taibbi: No Doubt Left: Russiagate Was a Cover-Up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (2 children) For one, that it wasn’t much money at all and had no appreciable effect. Meanwhile the US spends billions on propaganda around the world each year, so much that no other country compares. And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one? Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world Literally the link you posted contradicts it Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters I feel like we're going in circles. Happy New Year! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (3 children) Chris Hedges: Why Russiagate Won’t Go Away The cynical con the Democratic Party and the F.B.I. carried out to falsely portray Donald Trump as a puppet of the Kremlin worked, and continues to work, because it is what those who detest Trump want to believe. IT Pro: Cambridge Analytica models were exaggerated and ineffective, [UK Information Commissioner’s Office] claims Wall Street Journal: Mueller Doesn’t Find Trump Campaign Conspired With Russia Jacobin: Democrats and Mainstream Media Were the Real Kremlin Assets Washington Post: FEC fines DNC, Clinton for violating rules in funding Steele dossier Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters Jacobin: It Turns Out Hillary Clinton, Not Russian Bots, Lost the 2016 Election Matt Taibbi: Move Over, Jayson Blair: Meet Hamilton 68, the New King of Media Fraud The Twitter Files reveal that one of the most common news sources of the Trump era was a scam, making ordinary American political conversations look like Russian spywork Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big Deal On the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming. MSNBC Repeats Hamilton 68 Lies 279 Times in 11 Minutes Matt Taibbi: CIA "Cooked The Intelligence" To Hide That Russia Favored Clinton, Not Trump In 2016 Aaron Maté: Under Trump, the CIA is still covering up its Russiagate fraud Matt Taibbi: Note on New Trump-Russia Disclosures Thanks to explosive new document releases, the Russiagate hoax is now exposed, commencing a new era that will be about accountability for the guilty Matt Taibbi: No Doubt Left: Russiagate Was a Cover-Up permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (2 children) For one, that it wasn’t much money at all and had no appreciable effect. Meanwhile the US spends billions on propaganda around the world each year, so much that no other country compares. And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one? Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world Literally the link you posted contradicts it Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters I feel like we're going in circles. Happy New Year! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (2 children) For one, that it wasn’t much money at all and had no appreciable effect. Meanwhile the US spends billions on propaganda around the world each year, so much that no other country compares. And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one? Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world Literally the link you posted contradicts it Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters I feel like we're going in circles. Happy New Year! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (2 children) For one, that it wasn’t much money at all and had no appreciable effect. Meanwhile the US spends billions on propaganda around the world each year, so much that no other country compares. And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one? Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world Literally the link you posted contradicts it Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters I feel like we're going in circles. Happy New Year! permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one? Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world Literally the link you posted contradicts it Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters I feel like we're going in circles. Happy New Year! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (1 child) And domestically, almost all of the influence comes from US corporations and wealthy Americans. That had me stumped. We know the Russian budget for domestic media and narratives, it is not a small one, is that argument that somehow domestic government sanctioned propaganda is somehow better than a kleptocratic one? Domestically as in within the US. Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world. It’s coming from inside the house. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world Literally the link you posted contradicts it Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters I feel like we're going in circles. Happy New Year! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -4 points 10 months ago Americans aren’t being influenced by spooky foreigner actors on the other side of the world Literally the link you posted contradicts it Washington Post: Russian trolls on Twitter had little influence on 2016 voters I feel like we're going in circles. Happy New Year! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -14 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry. I can't speak to you because .ml censors users. The only place on Lemmy that I've experienced censorship. Have fun with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago Nah dawg. I called out .ml and .ml doesn't like that. Again, only place on Lemmy I've experienced censorship. It's kind of like the /r/conservative of Lemmy. If your comment doesn't fit the narrative, it's censored. That's why .ml has the reputation it has. Have fun. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 30 points 10 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry. I can't speak to you because .ml censors users. The only place on Lemmy that I've experienced censorship. Have fun with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago Nah dawg. I called out .ml and .ml doesn't like that. Again, only place on Lemmy I've experienced censorship. It's kind of like the /r/conservative of Lemmy. If your comment doesn't fit the narrative, it's censored. That's why .ml has the reputation it has. Have fun. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -11 points 10 months ago (1 child) Sorry. I can't speak to you because .ml censors users. The only place on Lemmy that I've experienced censorship. Have fun with that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago Nah dawg. I called out .ml and .ml doesn't like that. Again, only place on Lemmy I've experienced censorship. It's kind of like the /r/conservative of Lemmy. If your comment doesn't fit the narrative, it's censored. That's why .ml has the reputation it has. Have fun. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago Nah dawg. I called out .ml and .ml doesn't like that. Again, only place on Lemmy I've experienced censorship. It's kind of like the /r/conservative of Lemmy. If your comment doesn't fit the narrative, it's censored. That's why .ml has the reputation it has. Have fun. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DarkFuture@lemmy.world -10 points 10 months ago Nah dawg. I called out .ml and .ml doesn't like that. Again, only place on Lemmy I've experienced censorship. It's kind of like the /r/conservative of Lemmy. If your comment doesn't fit the narrative, it's censored. That's why .ml has the reputation it has. Have fun. permalink fedilink source parent