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[–] 118 points 10 months ago (38 children)

I'm only 4 months into Linux, and apt is my comfort zone. Checking out other distros that use something else has me running away like:

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    You can basically take that statement and replace “apt” with “whatever the first package tool I used” and it would be true for anyone.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    YSK/PSA: If you're on Mint, Mint's apt is not Debian's apt and while they work similarly for common use cases, they diverge pretty quickly beyond that. Both are installed by default but Mint's takes precedence.*

    Case in point: I was looking for which package - specifically one that was not yet installed - contains a certain command line tool and Mint's apt search does not find it. Debian's does. **

    On the other hand, Mint's apt has way more subcommands than the default one, which have been useful on occasion.

    * Mint's is at /usr/local/bin/apt and Debian's is at /usr/bin/apt; The default user $PATH puts /usr/local/bin before /usr/bin.

    ** FWIW, the tool is/was sponge and it's in the moreutils package.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Just use aptitude and be happy.

    Disclaimer: while aptitude was originally designed to replicate the apt CLI interface, I have never run the search command through it. The TUI is marvelous, though.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    Nowadays apt supports deleting dangling config files with apt purge "~c" so no need to have aptitude for that feature. However, aptitude why <package> is pretty handy, and if you bump into dependency problems aptitude is quite capable of suggesting valid solutions.

    Disclaimer: I've never used aptitude's TUI.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago*

    However, aptitude why is pretty handy

    Dude/dudesse, what the hell is this and why have I never heard of it? Sounds really useful on the manpage, I hope I remember it next time I need it. Thanks! 😊

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I wonder why apt search on ubuntu and debian must be so bad: on mint each package has a single line and an easy letter telling you if the program is installed or not. On debian/ubuntu each program takes multiple lines, are all green and the only way to distinguish installed ones is to look for an (installed) string at the end of the first line. I like Mint's apt version so much

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    don't let this type of bantering concern you

    we are all just splitting hairs and knocking each other's preferences when it is basically trivial. Like BMW and Mercedes drivers trying to one up who drives the superior German car

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    That’s easy Mercedes hasn’t made the superior car since the 80’s

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y

    =

    sudo dnf update -y

    For most systems. If you can get apt you can get any of them.

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  • [–] 32 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    The feds don't want you to know this but you can just put "-U" at the end of sudo apt upgrade and it updates before upgrading.

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  • [+] 11 points 10 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    If they are suppressing this, what else aren’t they telling us

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    If they are suppressing this

    Yup. Must be. No "-U" found in man apt.

    (Is there in man apt-get though. And it works on both.).

    And it does not show up in fish's option completion options on either, either.

    Near 20 years of having been using apt-get (and later, apt), if I ever knew this, I forgot. Could have been doing just one command all this time.

    what else aren’t they telling us

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    This gif makes me irrationally angry.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Exactly what I feel when I look or have to interact with anything that doesn't have pacman 😅

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I have to admit that I love the "pacman" pun quite a bit, which is nearly enough by itself to convince me to try it. One day. Maybe.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I can’t lie, that’s one of the reasons I moved over to CachyOS a few months back. It’s not the only reason, but it’s been my favourite distro for sure that I’ve tried. It’s the first one that really felt good to me.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    It's really a great distro, I've been using it fulltime on laptop and PC for over a year. Best one I've tried so far and for some reason it's less buggy than EndeavourOS was for me. The only thing I don't like about it is the name.

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