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Trump watched as girl’s newborn was murdered & dumped in lake, Epstein document says (www.lgbtqnation.com)
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[+] -39 points 10 months ago (21 children)

And now we’ve become the same as r/conservative. Just believe anything because to aligns with your world view.

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  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    No, we aren't the same at all. PedoCons literally invent their lies about their opponents out of thin air (the "Biden Crime Family," etc.), while we are only choosing to believe actual evidence from the biggest international pedophile ring in history, and not accept their lame excuses for their despicably evil behavior.

    If you can't see the difference, then YOU are part of the problem. Polish your Critical Thinking Skills.

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    The "Biden Crime Family" wasn't true. But, it does seem pretty obvious that Hunter Biden tried to take advantage of his father's political position in order to enrich himself. Joe Biden may not have approved, or have been involved in any way. And, the degree of possible "corruption" seems quaint compared with the absolute bullshit that the Trump family is doing. But, you can't just say that the "Biden Crime Family" was made out of thin air. It was anchored on something real, even though it was blown way out of proportion.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    Nonsense, many presidential kids have traded on their famous names, that wasn't unique to Hunter.

    Jenna Bush's first job was as a on-air host for The Today Show, leapfrogging over literally thousands of other far more qualified people, simply because she was a Bush. She gets a multi-million dollar a year contract, and nobody says a word.

    And let's not forget that the Trump children are making BILLIONS in incredibly corrupt deals with the worst people and worst regimes in the world, but yeah, let's talk about Hunter Biden, who tried to cut huge deals, but was largely unsuccessful. He's certainly been out-earned by plenty of Right Wing Nepo Babies.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    Nonsense, many presidential kids have traded on their famous names, that wasn't unique to Hunter.

    Nobody said it was unique to hunter, but it's still corruption.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    A self-serving Nepo Baby does not a "Crime Family" make.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Yes, but it's why the "Biden Crime Family" rhetoric started. It didn't arise out of thin air.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    So what? It wasn't an "interpretation," or a personal opinion, it was a total lie, and they knew it as they were inventing it.

    Hunter was only trying to trade on his family name like every other rich person on the fucking planet, and he didn't even do it well. If they didn't have that nonsense to hang their propaganda hat on, they would have gone after him for parking tickets, and still called them the Biden Crime Family.

    There was never one shred of evidence that the Biden family was involved in any sort of crime at all, as opposed to the Bush's, which have had legal problems since Neil's corrupt savings & loan debacle back in the 80s, as well as Jeb and George conspiring to steal the 2000 election. There's a crime family for you.

    And of course, the worst occupants of the White House has been the Trump Crime Family, which really does fit every definition of organized crime, including hundreds of civil.amd criminal convictions, and many more to come.

    But again, let's pretend that Hunter doing what literally every other rich kid on the planet does, is worthy of dubbing his entire extended family as an organized crime family.

    Stop trying to rationalize, and repeat, that slanderous MAGA propaganda.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Are you claiming that the files released by the Department of Justice are fabricated?

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

    We know that he is accused of having been complicit and a witness to infanticide, which is perhaps easy shadenfreude to believe but accusations are not proof of wrongdoing. Sadly, if it is true, we need a lot more than a record of conversation with a victim about events occurring 40 years ago.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Does it .after?

    Like, does this one being true or not change anything?

    Is killing a baby for the evulz really out of character? Like, if there's a person where you can say 'he killed a baby just to get rid of the evidence if the girl he raped' and everyone says 'yeah that makes sense he would do that. Killing a baby to cover up pedophilia sounds so him, that's in line with how he behaves most days. I'd be shocked if he hadn't killed a few babies to cover up little girls he raped, now that I think about it.' does it even matter if he killed the baby?

    I feel like it doesn't. I feel like this hypothetical person was already so far past the moral event horizon that they needed to be swinging from a tree years ago. Sorting out specific crimes is something we can manage posthumously.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (6 children)

    All proven offenses are supposed stack up, as if crimes proven true or not even matter in the context of Trump. That is the bigger problem: Trump is not held accountable for true crimes. It makes the unprovable crimes almost irrelevant

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    The proven offenses stack high enough they're giving us Kessler syndrome.

    If nobodys going to do shit, what is the point of proving things to a high standard?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Because it's better to not regress as a society into a worse mob than we already are. No standards for Trump sets a precedent for no standards for anybody

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    But if nobody's going to do shit, what are you actually doing? What is the difference between guilty and innocent? Aren't you just making the two converge?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    We are talking about an unprecedented event in the history of the US Federal government. How we get out of this and how Trump gets held accountable before he dies is not something anyone has had to figure out before. I would hope that the total erosion of justice for all is not the way

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Nah they figured it out. The framers of the us constitution said some shit about watering the tree of liberty. The French figured out specific solutions in the 90s, the Russians modernized them a century later.

    You just want daddy to do it for you. You are the reason nothing's getting done.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I’m saying we can’t know why the fuck is real in them. They’ve had them so long that they could have been doctored in god knows how many ways.

    Do I believe they out here killing babies? Not without proof no.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Yes. We're just as bad as them. We shouldn't let the previous actions of a person color our judgment. We should have total amnesia, only function in the now, and not believe anything anyone but the state tells us without mountains of proof every time.

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