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Trump watched as girl’s newborn was murdered & dumped in lake, Epstein document says (www.lgbtqnation.com)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca
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[–] 62 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Hearsay is when someone says they heard that x happened, but didn’t see it personally. This is eyewitness testimony, as in the person making the allegation says they saw it happen. For it to be hearsay she would have needed to disclose it to another person who then disclosed it to the FBI.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    This is a second hand report of the first person's claim. The document itself is hearsay. Her testimony would be admissable. A recording would be admissable. A typewritten document from who the fuck knows when is not.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    A typewritten document from who the fuck knows when is not.

    The fact it’s not a recording doesn’t make it not firsthand testimony, and neither does its age (which is from 2020 btw, you can see it yourself at the top of the document).

    Firsthand testimony isn’t inherently true, but that doesn’t make it not firsthand testimony.

    It sure as shit isn’t hearsay as was being asserted.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago*

    but it's not first-hand testimony. it's a typewritten document by an FBI agent. that is literally not first-hand testimony. in order to be first-hand testimony it needs to be given in a courtroom or recorded. we don't even know if the person who made the phone call is who they claim to be.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I agree with your top comment. There is a lot of very verifiable information in there. drop site news has done some actual journalism based on these document dumps. This one is just too attractive to low effort social media content producers. Too salacious.

    I haven't been digging through these documents. Could be others which are related. This is the one that's being circulated in my bubble. It isn't clear if this person is claiming she was also present for the infanticide but at the very least she is is saying she gave birth then the baby was no more so (if the story is real) something bad must have happened because a private citizen cannot just remove a child from its parent's care.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20251223055820if_/https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 8/EFTA00025010.pdf (clicking the link won't work because of the spaces, have to select copy paste) dated 08/03/2020.

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    Witness Information

    First Name: Donald

    Middle Name:

    Last Name: Trump

    Age: 70

    DOB:

    Additional Info: Again, just trying to find out the NYPD detective on the FBI sex trafficking task force that called me a couple of weeks ago and spoke to me about some of these issues.

    How is Contact Known: He participated regularly in paying money to force me to with him and he was present when my uncle murdered my newborn child and disposed of the body in Lake Michigan.

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