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[–] 7 points 10 months ago (27 children)

Is it just an unfounded report by a single person with no evidence? I bet the fbi got a bunch of crazy shit reported.

If there’s any evidence of this being true let’s see it.

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  • [–] 40 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah, let's ask the person to testify in court. We'll charge Trump with conspiracy to commit murder and then we'll have them testify and a jury can decide if he's guilty. Just like everyone else in this country should have to face.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That's not how it would work even for an ordinary person. This is an accusation about something rather far-fetched happening 35 years before the accusation was made, with no evidence for it except the accusation itself. It wouldn't lead to criminal charges.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    you don't know when they first contacted the police or FBI. also you have no idea what evidence was collected. your acting like you know something. you don't. yet all we can see is that is was an accusation, but claiming you know when the accusation was made or what investigations have been done is pure bullshit, so kindly shove that back up your ass where you got it from.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    It’s hearsay at best as-is. Compile some evidence first otherwise it would be dismissed.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    It's not just hearsay when its in the context of everything we know about Epstein, Trump, and how they've been named together in previous, similar case(s).

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago*

    There's another report in the files where a woman did report her rape to the police and she was later found dead with her "head blown off". Under a functional justice system that would be thoroughly investigated, under our system it was quickly ruled a suicide because she took "bad cocaine".

    These papers are being released because our justice system did not protect these victims. It is up to the public to ask questions and we need not presume innocence of the powerful as they failed to protect the vulnerable.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    THAT piece of paper is evidence.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago* (13 children)

    That’s not what the Epstein files are. They’re literally any paperwork related to him, even the tips from kooks. Some reaches the level of evidence, most is cruft.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

    This "paperwork" suggests that TRUMP murdered a newborn and dumped it into a lake after having SEX with a CHILD.

    Are YOU suggesting that we treat it as gossip or should we look a bit closer???

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I’m saying an accusation can be made by anyone, and does not automatically constitute fact. Its presence in the file doesn’t mean the claim was substantiated.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    This accusation was not made by "anyone". It was made by the woman who watched him murder her newborn.

    Why would she say that? Money? Fame? Power? She currently HAS none of that.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    To shift blame? For attention? Mental illness? We don’t know enough of the context. Was it investigated? What was the outcome? Was it deemed credible?

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Credible enough to remain in the files.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Again, the files are a dump of everything they have related to Epstein. There is no credibility threshold.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    I noticed that there is NOTHIING from ME in the Epstein files. I said lots of things about him.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The report was made a couple months before the 2020 election. Many others also made wild reports. I saw two others in the Epstein files made literally 6 days for the election.

    There are plenty of reasons to make up a story.

    But sure, they should go and investigate it. Starting with the woman and her uncle. Oh wait, I bet the uncle is dead. And I bet she took great effort to gather evidence... right...?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    There are plenty of reasons to make up a story.

    Like being targeted for harassment and possibly get murdered? This is not a typical rape accusation, it is made against someone who has been carrying out extra-judicial murders abroad.

    And I bet she took great effort to gather evidence

    This is classic rape apologetics. It is not the victim's job to collect evidence while they are distressed, that's the job of the investigators.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    We don't know if the victim did nothing though, she talked to a detective for over 20 minutes and so far we have not seen any documents regarding that conversation. She could have even done more than you, but we should not expect her to even though that is the response of some victims, it is not a universal response.

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