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[–] 9 points 10 months ago (18 children)

For a while, long before Teslas were around, my wife went through a phase where she didn't want a car with electronic door locks, "in case we crash into a retention pond."

So it came time for a new car, and while I'm talking with the sales people about price and such, all she wants to know is if she can get it without electronic locks. It seemed like she'd pay double if it didn't have the e-locks.

Finally I said, "I've never gone into a retention pond, and I don't know anyone who has ever gone into a retention pond. It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn't skipping electronic door locks, it's STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS! Let's try that solution first. if you go into a retention pond, then we'll discuss getting rid of e-locks."

It's been about 30 years, and I still don't know anyone whose gone into a retention pond, including my wife. But she still mentions the lock thing whenever we get a new car.

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  • [–] [S] 17 points 10 months ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Don't tell your wife, but there are whole youtube channels on this. They go around searching for missing people in bodies of water. They find more missing people than I would've thought.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    How many of them crashed in there vs how many were dumped after being murdered?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago*

    if you watch those videos most of them are the former category. The other common thread is that it often happens at night. They're usually found by the private investigators retracing the suspected routes of the missing person and then using a drone to scope out bodies of water along those routes -That alone is often enough to find people that went missing twenty+ years ago

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Hmmm...I want to try to look this up, but also am not sure how to go about it without getting put on a list...

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Youtube channels Adventures with purpose, echo divers.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn't skipping electronic door locks, it's STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS

    The premise of this logic is wholesale problematic.

    You can use the same logic and say:

    The real solution to seat belts is to just not wreck your car

    The real solution to stair rails is to just not fall down stairs

    The real solution to fire alarms is to just not light your building on fire

    ...etc

    Same reasoning/logical framework applied to different problem areas.

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    You're right, electronic door locks and windows should be banned, because a handful of people couldn't drive well enough to avoid going in a pond.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago*

    Which is hilarious because:

    A. Virtually all electronic locks can ^also^ be operated manually.

    1. By the time you're deep enough to prevent operating electronic locks, that door is not going to open, simply because of the pressure differential.
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