Adding to the rant

Like many countries, France has an near infinite number of charging stations, all of which require a different card and paid membership.

All of those companies used state funds to build their infrastructure.

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[–] 19 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Vehicle charging is such a complete worldwide shit show. Could you imagine if it was the same for getting petrol? “Ah, can’t fuel up at this station, the nozzle is the wrong size” or “you can’t fill up here, you need to use the Exxon app” or “sorry, half the pumps are currently broken and won’t be fixed anytime soon”

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    If you have a company car with fuel card it was a shit show. I definitely couldn't fuel up everywhere.

    At least now I only have to go out of my way to charge when I'm on holiday.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Really? It seems to me that wherever I go they use the same plug*, and I can charge with my debit card. (Except one place in Germany, but I think it was an error in the payment system.)

    Yes, there's technically two different plugs, but they go in the same socket in my car. It just that the fast ones have a larger plug.

    The problem is that some of them are much cheaper if you have the right card, but I believe the most expensive ones are still cheaper than fueling an ICE car.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    In North America, there have been several competing standards for years. Manufacturers finally seem to be coalescing around NACS (nee Tesla), but there are still a lot of cars which use CCS (two different types, none of which are the EU CCS), J1772, and CHAdeMO. Adapters abound, but it’s a mess.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Yeah I think it’s mainly North America (us?) that’s the problem.

    However the standards process worked, it created poor choices and was not effective. Twice. At least we’re finally coalescing on a de facto standard, and NACS is better than the previous two choices

    But yeah the app situation is bad. While I appreciated using chargers that use my cars internal ID, and just worked, that clearly doesn’t scale. Now that we’re trying to scale out to general use so we really need credit card readers instead of a plethora of apps.

    Not requiring an app was one of the prerequisites for federal incentive money, but the short-sighted administration retracted that

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Electric car charging works anywhere if you have an adapter

    If you have a vehicle with a weird fuel type then there's very few gas stations you can go to

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    Adapters? As many as you wish

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    No, a vehicle with a weird fuel type

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    More than you think. Hydrogen, specific diesel blend only, gas (the state of matter, not gasoline) fuel only

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Hydrogen is simply prototype fuel cell vehicles. Diesel blend, you mean the one used by semis? At every truck stop. Diesel engines can burn damn near anything though. Natural gas is only used by fleet vehicles purchased by duped (or bribed) government entities.

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