Wrote books on Apple software. Bought five figures of gear over decades. Then bought an Apple giftcard, & suddenly permabanned in spite of raising issue with internal contacts.

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[–] [S] 19 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Food for thought:

Hacker News comment thread: rvnx: "Lot of arrogant people here who think they are safe and better than anybody and blame OP. It is totally normal in today’s world to depend on cloud services and reasonably difficult to do without it. In China: no WeChat you are practically dead. […]" | Waterluvian: "I’ve interpreted it as a sort of head-in-sand coping mechanism for those low-likelihood, high-consequence events people feel powerless over. It’s less distressing to be powerless if you decide that the real issue was a fault by the victim and not a powerlessness you have in common with the victim."

Always room for disagreement

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    This is actually a known psychological phenomenon called the Just World Fallacy

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I'm quite prone to this. Even as I'm consciously resisting slipping into this fallacy, I can still feel that there is a pernicious and persistent kernel at my core that clings to the idea of a just world. For me, it is less about a moral kind of justice, more like a deep belief in some sense of underlying, teleological order to the world.

    I know that this is silly, in every way that it is possible to know a thing. And yet, I can't seem to sway that deep down part of me that devoutly believes that actually, everything makes sense.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    I mean I’m not in any danger of losing my personal documents because I have 3 copies stored on various media/services.

    I’m also not so heavily invested into any one media or software distribution ecosystem that I would be devastated if lost access to it.

    You aren’t powerless unless you make the choice to be. (Either intentionally or just out of not knowing the alternatives)

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (10 children)

    If you can afford apple products you can afford a back up plan.

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  • [+] 1 point 9 months ago (9 children)
  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (8 children)

    I would actually, that's the point. A backup plan is cheap. If you can afford a modern smartphone you can afford a backup plan.

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  • [+] 1 point 8 months ago (7 children)
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    I'm not suggesting anyone gets a recurring subscription at all. You can buy the most dogshit pc or even something like an off brand raspberry pi and a $10 microsd card with hundreds of gigabytes of storage and have a permanent data backup solution. You can even skip the device if you're really struggling. Microsd cards are dirt cheap.

    Combine that with grabbing several free tiers of data storage like Google, Proton, mega, filen, etc, you can rack up hundreds of gigabytes of storage, each with its own account so if one goes down or you lose access you can have the same data on the others. This can be for maximum priority data but even for low priority you can fit a lot of data on 15gb if it's not all high quality photos and videos.

    And if I can reach a bit, even a 2nd phone is viable. Many phones are under $100 and they, at the bare minimum, "work" so one such phone can be kept as a backup.

    There are many, many ways to have a very cheap backup plan. It's more about logistics than storage, and only requires a little bit of thinking and planning.

    I was once in a place where I couldn't afford an extra $2 a month, like you mentioned. But I ALWAYS had a backup plan, and sometimes it was completely free.

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  • [+] 1 point 8 months ago* (5 children)
  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    Okay I think you're intentionally missing the point. If someone isn't literate enough to make a Google drive account they are going to have a hard time with more things than a backup plan. They might not even be able to use a smartphone at all. We can nitpick the reasons why someone can't make a backup plan all day. What if they have a learning disability? What if they're in prison? What if they have no arms?

    It doesn't matter. My point is if you can use a smartphone at a below-average level, without assistance, you can easily and affordably (free) have a data backup plan. If you can't use a smartphone at a below average level without assistance, you have much bigger problems than a backup plan and a backup plan shouldn't be one of your worries.

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  • [+] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)
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    I brought up the google drive plan because I know many people can't afford to buy a 2nd device. Not being literate enough to know you need a backup plan is beside the point.

    And I'm not talking about pictures here. Before smartphones (or digital cameras I guess) nobody had backups of their pictures. You got the one copy and if it was destroyed that's it. Unless you used film and bought 2 copies but that's beside the point. That's a very low priority backup item. I'm talking about documentation, paperwork, important information in text form, passwords, etc. Things that literally everyone who has feasible access to a smartphone likely has or needs. All of that can be stored on a 15gb free plan. Anyone who is literate enough to use a random smartphone can do that. Pdfs and text files are tiny. Even pictures of documents can be tiny.

    Not knowing you can or should do that is another problem entirely. I was once one of those people who was so poor the only screen I owned was a phone (and it wasn't even a smart phone). If you do not understand that you need to keep a 2nd copy of important information, whoever gave you that documentation or the government that created it is at fault. If someone ever says "do not lose this", it should be clear you might want to make a copy of some sort, physical or digital.

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    I'm not sure we're on the same page here.

    If someone can:

    • Create an email address
    • Check and read emails
    • Create accounts necessary to obtain a phone number
    • Create accounts necessary to install apps on a smartphone and use those apps
    • Navigate the smartphone UI
    • Navigate web pages to do all of the above ...then they can absolutely figure out how to use a free online account to upload important documents in case they lose their primary storage (i.e. their phone).

    Like I already said, if they don't know they NEED to do that, that's another problem entirely, and not really their fault. But I haven't met many people who don't realize those documents are important and need protecting. And I'm not talking strictly about affluent, educated, privileged people.

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