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[–] 0 points 11 months ago (18 children)

USA pllitics aside, the world would be a little brighter with Maduro and his regime out of Venezuela

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    So you say. But it's up to the people of Venezuela do decide that and then act upon it, not the deranged USA administration.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Of course, but thats another thing. Americans are sick people.

    The problem with ellection in Venezuela is that they are stupidly rigged. It is said that Maduro lost the last one 70-30, and expatriates were not allowed to vote alleguing bs reasons. (Those are ~5 million voters that were heavily sided against maduro). If thats true, Venezuela has to "decide" by storming the streets at this point

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Venezuela has to “decide” by storming the streets at this point

    Still up to them. Being a foreigner you may even cheer for either side, as long as you don't send armies there to plunder and murder.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I will state this cause i think it may be subject of misinterpretation: i stated "decide" in comas because maduro lost the last 2 elections (the first one may be arguable, the second one was scandalous) and nothing changed, not because they should be "coopted to decide" or something.

    And just to clarify, the USA should stay out of venezuela

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I thought I read they did storm the streets of Caracas, during the last Trump admin, in support of Maduro, during a previous coup attempt.

    Like the US got caught sponsoring mercenaries and trying to ship in a load of guns to start a coup. I don't imagine everything is peachy in Venezuela, but I do wonder how much of that is due to meddling by foreign powers versus corruption.

    News in Latin America is hard to trust one way or another, because it always seems like it's being twisted to support one goal or another. Like, I know the state media is biased, but I also know the Western media is eager to support bloodthirsty actors who want to pillage their resources.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (7 children)

    You mean like how Libya is so much better now without Qaddafi? 🤡

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (6 children)

    No? Are you slow or something? You people have to stop watching the world in black and white.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    You need to learn from history.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)
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    Okay, you were given two examples of why this is bad (Qaddafi, Sadam). Here's another: Syria was a stable and semi-prosperous country before the meddling began, and then it was turned into a basket case. It took over ten years to depose Assad, and in the meantime their economy has been obliterated and half a million people died.

    These are just the recent examples, there are so many more: Sukarno in Indonesia, Allende in Chile, Lumumba in Congo, over and over and fucking over the US comes and fucking destroys countries in the name of "liberating" the people. Your government programs you to hate these "regimes" but they're actually stabilizing forces, and without them everything is worse.

    Making things worse is the point. If they can't install a puppet regime friendly to US interests they'll settle for turning the country into another basket case, because taking Venezuela's oil off the market raises prices (and thus profits)

    And Trump is already promising to do the same fucking thing in Colombia! It's so nakedly evil, and you just lap it up like a dog. The US's internal politics don't even matter, this is bipartisan.

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