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[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 102 points 11 months ago (35 children) fact... potentially... Yes, we're going to ignore a sensationalist conclusion that is not supported by evidence. permalink fedilink source hideshow 35 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (32 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (3 children) My intellect level is dipshit: do you know a good source for me to study and learn about this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I would suggest nasa.gov permalink fedilink source parent [–] Artaca@lemdro.id 1 point 11 months ago Copied from another user in this thread permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (22 children) So like I've been vaguely paying attention to them finding larger, farther, and more red-shifted galaxies. I've been suspecting the universe is a black hole for a while now. What if: information CAN survive the event horizon... but only if it hits the accretion disk from the side at the perfect angle to spiral in. That's why JWST is finding galaxies that are larger, older, and much more common than we'd anticipated -they're extra-universal objects. What if dark energy is a function of hawking radiation... and the expansion of our universe is driven by primordial black holes? Maybe hawking radiation is the black hole equalizing the same anti-matter/matter asymmetry we've observed in our universe. I'm sure someone formally educated on the subject can debunk those ideas tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (6 children) Love PBS Space time! So like in your opinion, tldr, do you think it's explicitly impossible for light to survive entering a black hole such that it could reproduce an image of whatever it reflected off? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Light that falls over the edge of the event horizon cannot get out again I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children) From which point of view? If the observer is inside the event horizon of the black hole, they'll see the light as normal. There's nothing special about the event horizon for the observer or the ray of light. If the observer is outside of the black hole, they won't ever see the light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago It's definitely possible in the case of a real black hole. I think it's unlikely to apply to the model we're talking about - the spaghettification would have to happen outside the event horizon, and that only applies to very small black holes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] discocactus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Pshhh I figured this out when I was 17 the first time I took psychedelics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) The hardest to understand thing about physics is that for those of us who got off on an earlier offramp it absolutely feels like this is an entirely different category of thing than a statics or dynamics class. Like, it feels like a lot when you go from "here's how ballistics, tension, and springs work" to "this is how electricity flows through metal and what forces make it do so". Then eventually, people who majored in that shit wind up doing this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (4 children) It explains subjective experiences? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) Sounds a lot like pseudoscience unless I am missing something major permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) De sitter space and anti de sitter space took me a while to grok as it relates to all this stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago Grok remains a perfectly cromulent word, imo. Even if everything Elon touches isn't permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 6 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Bro what if... *hits blunt* What if the whole universe was like.. like a quantum multiverse and shit- like, if we were supersymmetrically entangled without own spacetime strings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago Hear me out: permalink fedilink source parent [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago Here's a far out idea based on absolutely nothing: What if all of the information imprinted on the event horizon of a black hole is duplicated and becomes the stuff that creates a new universe inside of a black hole. Like. Everything that ever hits the event horizon are the pieces from which a new universe is built permalink fedilink source parent [–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children) it's certainly an interesting theory, it makes me wonder, if that actually were the case, how much time has passed outside of the black hole? Like is the universe space significantly younger outside of the black hole? Is matter less finite? It really makes the mind wander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Right but outside of the black hole, outside of it's gravity well, time moves faster. So how much time would have passed outside the black hole? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Haaveilija@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) I mean technically the sentence structure says that: Fact: NASA has done something That something: potentially discovering that we are in a black hole So in a sense there is no contradiction there with the words "fact" and "potentially". Although there is a relevant possibility for confusion of what is being stated as a fact, so your point stands. I just like nitpicking on technicalities :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago In a sense removed from context, yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (32 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 32 child comments replies: [–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (3 children) My intellect level is dipshit: do you know a good source for me to study and learn about this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I would suggest nasa.gov permalink fedilink source parent [–] Artaca@lemdro.id 1 point 11 months ago Copied from another user in this thread permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (22 children) So like I've been vaguely paying attention to them finding larger, farther, and more red-shifted galaxies. I've been suspecting the universe is a black hole for a while now. What if: information CAN survive the event horizon... but only if it hits the accretion disk from the side at the perfect angle to spiral in. That's why JWST is finding galaxies that are larger, older, and much more common than we'd anticipated -they're extra-universal objects. What if dark energy is a function of hawking radiation... and the expansion of our universe is driven by primordial black holes? Maybe hawking radiation is the black hole equalizing the same anti-matter/matter asymmetry we've observed in our universe. I'm sure someone formally educated on the subject can debunk those ideas tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (6 children) Love PBS Space time! So like in your opinion, tldr, do you think it's explicitly impossible for light to survive entering a black hole such that it could reproduce an image of whatever it reflected off? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Light that falls over the edge of the event horizon cannot get out again I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children) From which point of view? If the observer is inside the event horizon of the black hole, they'll see the light as normal. There's nothing special about the event horizon for the observer or the ray of light. If the observer is outside of the black hole, they won't ever see the light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago It's definitely possible in the case of a real black hole. I think it's unlikely to apply to the model we're talking about - the spaghettification would have to happen outside the event horizon, and that only applies to very small black holes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] discocactus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Pshhh I figured this out when I was 17 the first time I took psychedelics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) The hardest to understand thing about physics is that for those of us who got off on an earlier offramp it absolutely feels like this is an entirely different category of thing than a statics or dynamics class. Like, it feels like a lot when you go from "here's how ballistics, tension, and springs work" to "this is how electricity flows through metal and what forces make it do so". Then eventually, people who majored in that shit wind up doing this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (4 children) It explains subjective experiences? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) Sounds a lot like pseudoscience unless I am missing something major permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) De sitter space and anti de sitter space took me a while to grok as it relates to all this stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago Grok remains a perfectly cromulent word, imo. Even if everything Elon touches isn't permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 6 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Bro what if... *hits blunt* What if the whole universe was like.. like a quantum multiverse and shit- like, if we were supersymmetrically entangled without own spacetime strings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago Hear me out: permalink fedilink source parent [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago Here's a far out idea based on absolutely nothing: What if all of the information imprinted on the event horizon of a black hole is duplicated and becomes the stuff that creates a new universe inside of a black hole. Like. Everything that ever hits the event horizon are the pieces from which a new universe is built permalink fedilink source parent [–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children) it's certainly an interesting theory, it makes me wonder, if that actually were the case, how much time has passed outside of the black hole? Like is the universe space significantly younger outside of the black hole? Is matter less finite? It really makes the mind wander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Right but outside of the black hole, outside of it's gravity well, time moves faster. So how much time would have passed outside the black hole? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (3 children) My intellect level is dipshit: do you know a good source for me to study and learn about this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I would suggest nasa.gov permalink fedilink source parent [–] Artaca@lemdro.id 1 point 11 months ago Copied from another user in this thread permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago I would suggest nasa.gov permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Artaca@lemdro.id 1 point 11 months ago Copied from another user in this thread permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago* (22 children) So like I've been vaguely paying attention to them finding larger, farther, and more red-shifted galaxies. I've been suspecting the universe is a black hole for a while now. What if: information CAN survive the event horizon... but only if it hits the accretion disk from the side at the perfect angle to spiral in. That's why JWST is finding galaxies that are larger, older, and much more common than we'd anticipated -they're extra-universal objects. What if dark energy is a function of hawking radiation... and the expansion of our universe is driven by primordial black holes? Maybe hawking radiation is the black hole equalizing the same anti-matter/matter asymmetry we've observed in our universe. I'm sure someone formally educated on the subject can debunk those ideas tho. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 22 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (6 children) Love PBS Space time! So like in your opinion, tldr, do you think it's explicitly impossible for light to survive entering a black hole such that it could reproduce an image of whatever it reflected off? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Light that falls over the edge of the event horizon cannot get out again I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children) From which point of view? If the observer is inside the event horizon of the black hole, they'll see the light as normal. There's nothing special about the event horizon for the observer or the ray of light. If the observer is outside of the black hole, they won't ever see the light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago It's definitely possible in the case of a real black hole. I think it's unlikely to apply to the model we're talking about - the spaghettification would have to happen outside the event horizon, and that only applies to very small black holes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] discocactus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Pshhh I figured this out when I was 17 the first time I took psychedelics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) The hardest to understand thing about physics is that for those of us who got off on an earlier offramp it absolutely feels like this is an entirely different category of thing than a statics or dynamics class. Like, it feels like a lot when you go from "here's how ballistics, tension, and springs work" to "this is how electricity flows through metal and what forces make it do so". Then eventually, people who majored in that shit wind up doing this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (4 children) It explains subjective experiences? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) Sounds a lot like pseudoscience unless I am missing something major permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) De sitter space and anti de sitter space took me a while to grok as it relates to all this stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago Grok remains a perfectly cromulent word, imo. Even if everything Elon touches isn't permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 6 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Bro what if... *hits blunt* What if the whole universe was like.. like a quantum multiverse and shit- like, if we were supersymmetrically entangled without own spacetime strings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago Hear me out: permalink fedilink source parent [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago Here's a far out idea based on absolutely nothing: What if all of the information imprinted on the event horizon of a black hole is duplicated and becomes the stuff that creates a new universe inside of a black hole. Like. Everything that ever hits the event horizon are the pieces from which a new universe is built permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (18 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (6 children) Love PBS Space time! So like in your opinion, tldr, do you think it's explicitly impossible for light to survive entering a black hole such that it could reproduce an image of whatever it reflected off? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Light that falls over the edge of the event horizon cannot get out again I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children) From which point of view? If the observer is inside the event horizon of the black hole, they'll see the light as normal. There's nothing special about the event horizon for the observer or the ray of light. If the observer is outside of the black hole, they won't ever see the light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago It's definitely possible in the case of a real black hole. I think it's unlikely to apply to the model we're talking about - the spaghettification would have to happen outside the event horizon, and that only applies to very small black holes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] discocactus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Pshhh I figured this out when I was 17 the first time I took psychedelics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) The hardest to understand thing about physics is that for those of us who got off on an earlier offramp it absolutely feels like this is an entirely different category of thing than a statics or dynamics class. Like, it feels like a lot when you go from "here's how ballistics, tension, and springs work" to "this is how electricity flows through metal and what forces make it do so". Then eventually, people who majored in that shit wind up doing this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (4 children) It explains subjective experiences? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) Sounds a lot like pseudoscience unless I am missing something major permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) De sitter space and anti de sitter space took me a while to grok as it relates to all this stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago Grok remains a perfectly cromulent word, imo. Even if everything Elon touches isn't permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (6 children) Love PBS Space time! So like in your opinion, tldr, do you think it's explicitly impossible for light to survive entering a black hole such that it could reproduce an image of whatever it reflected off? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Light that falls over the edge of the event horizon cannot get out again I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children) From which point of view? If the observer is inside the event horizon of the black hole, they'll see the light as normal. There's nothing special about the event horizon for the observer or the ray of light. If the observer is outside of the black hole, they won't ever see the light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago It's definitely possible in the case of a real black hole. I think it's unlikely to apply to the model we're talking about - the spaghettification would have to happen outside the event horizon, and that only applies to very small black holes. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Light that falls over the edge of the event horizon cannot get out again I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Light that falls over the edge of the event horizon cannot get out again I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children) From which point of view? If the observer is inside the event horizon of the black hole, they'll see the light as normal. There's nothing special about the event horizon for the observer or the ray of light. If the observer is outside of the black hole, they won't ever see the light. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago It's definitely possible in the case of a real black hole. I think it's unlikely to apply to the model we're talking about - the spaghettification would have to happen outside the event horizon, and that only applies to very small black holes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) I'm talking as an inside observer. Like what if spaghettification = red shift and the "too large, too old, to developed" galaxies like MoM-z14 detected by JWST are actually from outside our universe's event horizon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago It's definitely possible in the case of a real black hole. I think it's unlikely to apply to the model we're talking about - the spaghettification would have to happen outside the event horizon, and that only applies to very small black holes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago It's definitely possible in the case of a real black hole. I think it's unlikely to apply to the model we're talking about - the spaghettification would have to happen outside the event horizon, and that only applies to very small black holes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Pshhh I figured this out when I was 17 the first time I took psychedelics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) The hardest to understand thing about physics is that for those of us who got off on an earlier offramp it absolutely feels like this is an entirely different category of thing than a statics or dynamics class. Like, it feels like a lot when you go from "here's how ballistics, tension, and springs work" to "this is how electricity flows through metal and what forces make it do so". Then eventually, people who majored in that shit wind up doing this shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago (4 children) It explains subjective experiences? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) Sounds a lot like pseudoscience unless I am missing something major permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) Sounds a lot like pseudoscience unless I am missing something major permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) Sounds a lot like pseudoscience unless I am missing something major permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 point 11 months ago Makes perfect sense from a physics and relativity standpoint but I was interpreting your messages from an everyday human perspective standpoint permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) De sitter space and anti de sitter space took me a while to grok as it relates to all this stuff permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago Grok remains a perfectly cromulent word, imo. Even if everything Elon touches isn't permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago Grok remains a perfectly cromulent word, imo. Even if everything Elon touches isn't permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago Grok remains a perfectly cromulent word, imo. Even if everything Elon touches isn't permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 6 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Bro what if... *hits blunt* What if the whole universe was like.. like a quantum multiverse and shit- like, if we were supersymmetrically entangled without own spacetime strings permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago Hear me out: permalink fedilink source parent
[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago Here's a far out idea based on absolutely nothing: What if all of the information imprinted on the event horizon of a black hole is duplicated and becomes the stuff that creates a new universe inside of a black hole. Like. Everything that ever hits the event horizon are the pieces from which a new universe is built permalink fedilink source parent
[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children) it's certainly an interesting theory, it makes me wonder, if that actually were the case, how much time has passed outside of the black hole? Like is the universe space significantly younger outside of the black hole? Is matter less finite? It really makes the mind wander permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Right but outside of the black hole, outside of it's gravity well, time moves faster. So how much time would have passed outside the black hole? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[+] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Right but outside of the black hole, outside of it's gravity well, time moves faster. So how much time would have passed outside the black hole? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] candyman337@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Right but outside of the black hole, outside of it's gravity well, time moves faster. So how much time would have passed outside the black hole? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Haaveilija@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) I mean technically the sentence structure says that: Fact: NASA has done something That something: potentially discovering that we are in a black hole So in a sense there is no contradiction there with the words "fact" and "potentially". Although there is a relevant possibility for confusion of what is being stated as a fact, so your point stands. I just like nitpicking on technicalities :D permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago In a sense removed from context, yes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 11 months ago In a sense removed from context, yes. permalink fedilink source parent