▲ 436 ▼ Valve Responds To Steam Machine's HDMI 2.1 Display Support Controversy [HW support is there, but "The HDMI forum" doesn’t allow with OpenSource drivers] (hothardware.com) submitted 11 months ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 136 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago (6 children) ...extremely well? Can you provide an example of the contrary? Can you provide evidence of it working extremely well? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago This is my response, how often do companies acquiesce to consumer pressure in any meaningful way? This is like asking to prove a negative permalink fedilink source parent [–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 11 months ago (4 children) Every time ever? How about Disney getting mass subscription cancellations after canning Kimmy Kimmel? They can't sell shit that people don't buy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) How does a subscription compare to TV purchases? How does that one instance of politically driven consumer action equate to "every time ever"? Have you heard of Nestlé? People have boycott them forever and they still exist. Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) How does a subscription compare to TV purchases? How does it not? It's a withheld purchase (AKA "voting with your wallet") How does that one instance of politically driven consumer action equate to "every time ever"? It doesn't and wasn't supposed to. The last part did. Have you heard of Nestlé? People have boycott them forever and they still exist. They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. Got it, so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I'm sure you've never bought a display, GPU, or computer with HDMI, and I'm sure you've advocated for your friends and family to stop buying anything with HDMI certification. Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. Yes, because it's not logically possible. Once again, if people stop buying them, they can't sell them. And they'll be forced to make something else that people will want to buy. I didn't say "no one", but it doesn't have to be everyone either. There has to be more than a few people such that if affects their bottom line. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I could say the same about you. I'm sure you've never bought a display I've bought lots of things with HDMI that also have Display Ports. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago This is my response, how often do companies acquiesce to consumer pressure in any meaningful way? This is like asking to prove a negative permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social -1 points 11 months ago (4 children) Every time ever? How about Disney getting mass subscription cancellations after canning Kimmy Kimmel? They can't sell shit that people don't buy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) How does a subscription compare to TV purchases? How does that one instance of politically driven consumer action equate to "every time ever"? Have you heard of Nestlé? People have boycott them forever and they still exist. Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) How does a subscription compare to TV purchases? How does it not? It's a withheld purchase (AKA "voting with your wallet") How does that one instance of politically driven consumer action equate to "every time ever"? It doesn't and wasn't supposed to. The last part did. Have you heard of Nestlé? People have boycott them forever and they still exist. They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. Got it, so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I'm sure you've never bought a display, GPU, or computer with HDMI, and I'm sure you've advocated for your friends and family to stop buying anything with HDMI certification. Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. Yes, because it's not logically possible. Once again, if people stop buying them, they can't sell them. And they'll be forced to make something else that people will want to buy. I didn't say "no one", but it doesn't have to be everyone either. There has to be more than a few people such that if affects their bottom line. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I could say the same about you. I'm sure you've never bought a display I've bought lots of things with HDMI that also have Display Ports. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children) How does a subscription compare to TV purchases? How does that one instance of politically driven consumer action equate to "every time ever"? Have you heard of Nestlé? People have boycott them forever and they still exist. Why? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) How does a subscription compare to TV purchases? How does it not? It's a withheld purchase (AKA "voting with your wallet") How does that one instance of politically driven consumer action equate to "every time ever"? It doesn't and wasn't supposed to. The last part did. Have you heard of Nestlé? People have boycott them forever and they still exist. They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. Got it, so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I'm sure you've never bought a display, GPU, or computer with HDMI, and I'm sure you've advocated for your friends and family to stop buying anything with HDMI certification. Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. Yes, because it's not logically possible. Once again, if people stop buying them, they can't sell them. And they'll be forced to make something else that people will want to buy. I didn't say "no one", but it doesn't have to be everyone either. There has to be more than a few people such that if affects their bottom line. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I could say the same about you. I'm sure you've never bought a display I've bought lots of things with HDMI that also have Display Ports. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago (2 children) How does a subscription compare to TV purchases? How does it not? It's a withheld purchase (AKA "voting with your wallet") How does that one instance of politically driven consumer action equate to "every time ever"? It doesn't and wasn't supposed to. The last part did. Have you heard of Nestlé? People have boycott them forever and they still exist. They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. Got it, so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I'm sure you've never bought a display, GPU, or computer with HDMI, and I'm sure you've advocated for your friends and family to stop buying anything with HDMI certification. Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. Yes, because it's not logically possible. Once again, if people stop buying them, they can't sell them. And they'll be forced to make something else that people will want to buy. I didn't say "no one", but it doesn't have to be everyone either. There has to be more than a few people such that if affects their bottom line. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I could say the same about you. I'm sure you've never bought a display I've bought lots of things with HDMI that also have Display Ports. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) They obviously don't or they wouldn't exist. Got it, so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I'm sure you've never bought a display, GPU, or computer with HDMI, and I'm sure you've advocated for your friends and family to stop buying anything with HDMI certification. Right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. Yes, because it's not logically possible. Once again, if people stop buying them, they can't sell them. And they'll be forced to make something else that people will want to buy. I didn't say "no one", but it doesn't have to be everyone either. There has to be more than a few people such that if affects their bottom line. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I could say the same about you. I'm sure you've never bought a display I've bought lots of things with HDMI that also have Display Ports. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago so in your case, if it applies to your argument, it's possible and works "every time ever", and if it goes against your argument, it doesn't exist and no one is boycotting. Yes, because it's not logically possible. Once again, if people stop buying them, they can't sell them. And they'll be forced to make something else that people will want to buy. I didn't say "no one", but it doesn't have to be everyone either. There has to be more than a few people such that if affects their bottom line. You are not arguing in good faith, and only want to be right in this instance. I could say the same about you. I'm sure you've never bought a display I've bought lots of things with HDMI that also have Display Ports. permalink fedilink source parent