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[+] 12 points 11 months ago (5 children)
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    I must admit i don't talk with Marxists nor do i know what is FOX news, and i do exaggerated my point, but lets not pretend Mao Zedong and North Korea didn't exists, whatever you mentioned above is no way closer to far left. Socialism is practiced everywhere, but that doesn't make them far left.

    You're mistaking capital (private property used to produce goods and services in order to extract surplus value from workers) with personal property (the things you use on your own for your own shit, like your house or your toothbrush).

    Literally the excess i'm talking about.

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    Mistakes were made during Mao? For sure they were. The balance is still overwhelmingly positive by any metric you want to apply.

    The mistake is millions of death while Mao walks away without any repercussions.

    North-Koreans wouldn't have had such an extreme policy of international isolation and self-defense.

    And maybe if nk didn't self isolate for so long they would've recover. Just look at singapore. Did you know North Korea have an embassy in Malaysia? Did you know what happen next? They decided to assassinate Kim Jong Nam in Malaysia, then blame Malaysia for it, and cut all ties. NK might have been a victim of US, but their current situation is 100% their own doing.

    Well that conclude my reason of not speaking with Marxist, you guys are nut lol.

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    How to lie with data, exhibit A:

    So i thought we're talking about how Mao's leadership lead to famine and millions of death, and normal people will be taking a look at his "Great Leap Forward" in 1958 and compare the life expectancy of the country from the time he took office and to the time he left and the effect of the plan, so let say maybe as far back as data available since he's the chairman of CCP to a year or two after he introduce the plan, that would be 1950 to 1959 or maybe 1960, the result would be:

    1950: around 43

    1959: around 44(the year he resign as the chairman of the country)

    1960: around 33(2 years after he introduced the plan)

    Whoops, doesn't look too good. So now compare the same year with india for some reason:

    1950: around 35

    1959: around 40

    1960: around 45

    It's great, i must say, that's a huge improvement.

    But here you just compare a random year to another random year because it proof your point, anything to defend a dictator. This is why i don't talk with tankie, or marxist if you wanna call yourself that, because not only you're egotistical and delusional, you also defend dictator while pretend to condemn the others that doesn't conform to your identity just so your idol will appear nice on paper, you're the far left that you pretend didn't exist. Have you try politics? You will fit right in, lying and misguide the public is a requirement.

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