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I received insults

Someone even posted photos of dead bodies

These comments weren't reviewed, but I was permanently blocked because my political stance is to hope for the reunification of my country. They said I have nothing to offer, just spreading propaganda and negativity.

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[+] [S] -13 points 11 months ago (28 children)
  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (26 children)

    Everyone has to do this? I mean I'm German... The borders here have changed all the time for centuries. I don't post offensive memes about who should be incorporated into some country... Or ejected from my country. Or whether Ukraine belongs to Russia... Or Venezuela to the USA... Or the West Banks to Israel... That's not really funny once people die because of it.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (15 children)

    I don't agree with OP, but this thinking can be used to say Ireland should never get its land back from Britain.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    I think someone sharing an IRA-type commentator implying support for the violent takeover of Northern Ireland would receive a similar level of contempt.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (13 children)

    I would hope not.

    'Successful' colonisation is still colonisation.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (12 children)

    So you think someone supporting the hypothetical attack of people in Northern Ireland and promoting it would be a good thing?

    The people of Northern Ireland are descendents of descendents of descendents. They have their own devolved government, and I expect that within some election cycles, a pro-Republican majority will hold the Stormont and be able to seriously move to a referendum. In our lifetime.

    Calling for violence in light of that reality is repulsive.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    I think Ireland should be reunited. Violence is not my first choice, but it is so far the only tool that has gotten us where we are today and I am not privileged enough to condone it.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    And what do the people of Northern Ireland want?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (8 children)

    So Palestine should not get its land back?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Are you of the opinion the situation in Palestine is remotely equivalent to that of Northern Ireland?

    And you did not answer my question. What do the people of Northern Ireland want?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    I’m of the opinion that our struggle has been shared, as attested to by the history of anti-colonial collaboration between our countries.

    They can live in Ireland or move back to the UK.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

    Right, that's still not what I asked you. I'm not asking what you think should happen. I'm asking you what do the people of Northern Ireland want now?

    The people in Northern Ireland can move between Ireland and the UK, move into the UK - enjoy equal rights. There's no system of apartheid. They have their own institutions. They can use those institutions to eventually acquire independence, providing there's enough support.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I don’t value what colonisers want.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    So lets go further. What do people who live in Ireland want? Do they want to launch a violent assault on Northern Ireland? What are you even proposing here?

    Is everyone in Northern Ireland a coloniser, or are they only colonisers if they happen to disagree with unifying Northern Ireland with Ireland?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Yes, polling has shown support for Irish reunification since independence.

    I am not proposing anything? I have said I do not condone the only effective tool we have, the only one that has ever given us our freedom.

    Yes. You live in a colony, you’re a coloniser. It’s not complicated.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Yes, polling has shown support for Irish reunification since independence.

    Supporting Irish reunification is not the same as supporting achieving that through violent ends.

    I have said I do not condone the only effective tool we have, the only one that has ever given us our freedom.

    I misread it originally, but plenty of countries in the modern-era have achieved independence without violence.

    Yes. You live in a colony, you’re a coloniser. It’s not complicated.

    So does that include people of Irish background who do not support an immediate, instant unification with Ireland?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago*

    So you think someone supporting the hypothetical attack of people in Northern Ireland and promoting it would be a good thing?

    England has been doing this for centuries.

    The people of Northern Ireland are descendents of descendents of descendents

    What "people" are you talking about here? Everybody is a desendent of a descendent of a descendent... Meaningless.

    If someone is a descendent of fascists and they're still carrying that banner, then they're still a fascist.

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  • [+] [S] -12 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Your borders changed because you attacked the world. We got attacked by the world.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago* (6 children)

    You openly laughed about the prospect of China invading Taiwan.

    A situation that would cause millions to be killed potentially.

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  • [+] [S] -7 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    But can Westerners spread false information about China's collapse and the deaths of millions of people and then ridicule it?

    They can call us "West Taiwan" and then mock about KMT taking over power?

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    Without looking, that thread looks tongue-in-cheek. You just posted Danny Haiphong who once went to Belgium and complained about all the blue and yellow he saw, thinking it was to do with being pro-Ukraine, except it was just that cities aesthetic.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Report it if you think it's offensive and violates the rules. That's how moderation works here. And you'd expect more glee and negative sentiment because some countries are "underdogs" and some aren't. That doesn't make anything right, but that's how it is on the internet. Just do your part and report things which you think are inappropriate... Two wrongs don't make a right!

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I don't think you being allowed to post political memes about other people's lives is rooted in whether your people were attacked in history. At least not directly... And I didn't attack nobody, so maybe I should play the victim card as well? I mean all of this is arbitrary. Why does Mongolia and everything up to Lake Baikal not belong to China? Why is Kaliningrad Russian and not Prussian? Why am I German in the first place? And why do we keep stupid little countries like Belgium or Luxembourg around? We had a lot of war and attacks happen in history of mankind...

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