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Hey that OS alot of people care about righ now is hiring, please consider & share to other (grapheneos.org)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/technology@beehaw.org
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Qualifications

  • Prior experience working on one or more of Android/AOSP-based operating systems, the Linux kernel and its hardening, memory allocators, or Android app development
  • Strong programming skills in relevant languages (in order from most to least common: Java, Kotlin, C++, C, Rust, JavaScript, TypeScript, arm64 assembly, Bash, Python)
  • Need to have enough experience to be comfortable to self direct workloads and submit finished features and fixes ready for review
  • Commitment to privacy and security principles
  • Ideally prior experience contributing to free and open source projects

Salary and remuneration will be commensurate with experience and aligned with industry standards. You will be employed as an independent contractor

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[–] 46 points 11 months ago (11 children)

"you will be employed as an independent contractor"

Dear (US) companies: this is not "employed". This is commissioned or mandated, depending on the contract details.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I don't know if there's really a better way to manage this need. They need a pretty niche specialized developer, so you have to cast a pretty wide net (globally, mind you) for remote work.

    1. It's a pretty small global team.
    2. How would they financially/legally manage the burden of tax/benefit/workers rights across all boarders; especially as a non-profit.

    Yes, people should know what they are getting into, with independent contractor work. I just think there is (probably) some nuance to this particular case; where hiring people on as an employee doesn't make a lot of sense.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Heh I literally at the same time you posted answered to someone else that I think I er where I'm coming from.

    Personally my issue is more with the framing ("looking for an employee") than with the fact that they want/need a contractor.

    I still wish them the best and would encourage everyone qualified to put their energy into a project like this rather than ... Close to anything else!

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    It also sounds like they are trying to fill a part-time role. "Must be able to commit to spending 80 hours or more a month" = ~20 hours a week, but given the ebb and flow of release/bug/patch work needed...

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, this is such an anti-labor thing for them to do. I hate seeing stuff like this in general, but from open-source projects it hurts way more.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I get where you're coming from. I highly respect this project for its privacy push and it's sadly a good example of "not all issues have the same priority".

    I honestly can see them just not being able to handle the business risk of a full employee would bring or several other reasons why it's "okay" from their perspective. I now basically have to choose between two subjects that I find important.

    For me I came to the conclusion that I still wish them the best - I can't hold them to a standard ass high as the corporate world personally, let alone one higher.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    It's not like I'm going to boycott them, but it's important to always push because they CAN do better. Any "risk" that they are not handling, they are offloading to the workers themselves. It doesn't just disappear. I'm not saying they should be only hiring full-time devs at competitive silicon valley salaries, but part time on a living wage with worker protections is an important bar to clear for all entities that seek paid labor.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    An independent contractor IS employed. They’re employed by themselves. Self-employed. So if you’re doing work for them, you are employed as an independent contractor doing work for them.

    I think it’s pretty clear what they mean. Could have just said “you’ll be paid as a contractor and receive the relevant tax forms for your country” tho

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    They are employed by themselves. They are not employed AS anything else. You have it right just your conclusion is inconsistent.

    It's for me not about the wording of the last paragraph by the way but about the context and requirements list which makes the impression (to me) of offering an employee/employer relationship which is only broken up in the last line. That's the part I really don't like.

    This kind of advertisement would be illegal in Germany btw as it would encourage pseudo self employment: someone self employed who is relying on one client only. (And no, not exaggerated: I've a legal department at least pull job description from the tech dept similar to this).

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