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The cloud is just someone else's computer, but the internet is just someone else's network (lemmy.world)
submitted 11 months ago by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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[–] 52 points 11 months ago (13 children)

It would already help if apartment buildings had an internal network with a single connection point, but I can tell you as someone who worked on this as a volunteer for student dormitories back in the day that ISPs are extremely hostile to the idea.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    afaik the Ruhr Universiry of Bochum has an intranet that connects the uni and all the dorms. And they selfhost a couple of services, like email, git and pastebin. You can see a line going to the dorms on the graph.

    https://noc.rub.de/web/services/start

    https://nedi.noc.rub.de/netweather/

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

    Yeah, German Universities have special direct internet access via the "Hochschulnetz". We had some pretty fancy 5ghz directional wifi connections over several km connecting to it, but it was fairly slow (shared 10 mbit), which made that impractical for most private internet use.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Universities all over the world own their fair share of regional and national network. They also host a lot of services however in most of study field the student are not educated about it and go for corporate solutions. Professor may know about it but they are not sensibilised enough to understand they should teach to choose these tools

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    No thanks, double-NATing is not my idea of fun when it comes to self-hosting.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    That is a silly assumption, like why would you assume the worst possible setup? And it would be much easier to talk to the person managing the apartment internet than having to deal with some AI chatbot that pretends to be the support at some shitty ISP.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    apartment landlord

    why would you assume the worst possible setup?

    (/¯ ಠ_ಠ)/¯

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Many apartments are owned by the inhabitants or are cooperatively managed.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Not in the US they aren't.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    This. Though theoretically you could do it without CGNAT, maybe some type of complex vlan arrangement? I'm not sure, I'm not a networkologist.

    I do know that I just got fiber down my road from a smaller company, still a big multi state company, but not Comcast or charter big. I called them because I was worried about CGNAT for my self hosting. The salesman didn't know what I was talking about, which is disappointing but not surprising. But they forwarded me to the tech guys, who also claimed to not know what I was talking about... Which was either a downright lie, or they were idiots, either way it's very concerning.

    The price was right though, $5 cheaper per month, for 10 times faster download, and 30 times faster upload. So I gave it a shot. Thankfully I'm not behind a CGNAT, yet 🤞

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