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Plex’s crackdown on free remote streaming access starts this week - Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)
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Plex is starting to enforce its new rules, which prevent users from remotely accessing a personal media server without a subscription fee.

If anyone needs it: https://jellyfin.org/

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[–] 15 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Same. For whatever reason Jellyfin just does not want to work outside of my network. I have fiddled with port numbers, settings, and everything else. I have no idea why it won't work.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Sounds like you're behind cgNAT, which essentially means there's another router owned by your ISP that's between yours and the open internet, which also requires port forwarding, but your ISP will never do that for you.

    It complicates things, but the solution(s) are tools like tailscale, cloudflare Tunnels, or to rent a VPS just to host a proxy/vpn.

    Plex solves this by using their own public servers as a proxy for you, but this is part of how they have control over your users/server/data, such as blocking remote streaming... That makes more than a few people uncomfortable.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Yeh these are things I realise and I know there are solutions. The way Plex does it isnt ideal but also it works for me and my current knowledge level.

    Maybe in the future as I learn more I can move on but right now it works for me and I dont have the time or motivation to put into learning everything else I need right now, as with everyone else in the world right now there is a lot of other shit going on that it just isnt high on my priority list unfortunately.

    I'm still in my first year of self hosting personally and as well as being a Linux newbie I have learnt a lot and it has been a steep learning curve with everything.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    I only bring it up because you explicitly said you have no idea why it doesn't work.

    Take things at a comfortable pace; there's no sense overwhelming yourself. Then you just forget what you've done and end up lost in your own maze.

    I started with Plex myself, almost 10 years ago. Moved to Emby, where I learned about buying a domain, setting up ssl through a reverse proxy, and just continued to explore from there. Today I run ~26 containers/projects across three systems and I'm always keeping my eye out for interesting new things.

    Best of luck with your journey m8.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The way networking has developed is honestly embarrassing. We shouldn't have to have cgNAT or any of the other problems that come with how we've broken the end to end principle, and it's made us reliant on centralized Services when there's absolutely no technical reason why that ever had to be the case

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Thankfully CGNAT isn't as common in the USA as it is in other countries. In the US, ISPs generally either offer native IPv4 (most of the major ones), or only use IPv6 and provide IPv4 at all. The latter is the case with a lot of the mobile carriers, especially T-Mobile. Your phone only gets an IPv6 address, and their network uses 464XLAT to connect to legacy IPv4-only servers.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Most ISPs that do use CGNAT also offer ipv6 in Australia at least. The problem is that there is always that one client network that only supports ipv4 so you end up needing to support dual stack one way or another. Most of these ISPs also support CGNAT opt out for free at least, but I suspect that will go away in the medium term (and maybe that will encourage more universal ipv6 rollout).

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