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[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (11 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) USSR Uhh.... History should teach you that the co-founder of the Heritage Foundation was traveling around Moscow and Eastern Europe when the Soviet Union collapsed, but it never really gets talked about for some reason. A conservative who essentially birthed Project 2025 and is famously quoted as saying "I don't want everyone to vote," was sneaking in computers and other electronics to Soviet dissidents while teaching soviet politicians all about American "democracy" just prior to the collapse. Then he and several other members of Heritage were ready to fill the power vacuum and help establish the first go between for U.S. and Russian capitalist businesses. "You capture the Soviet Union --I'm going to capture the states."-Thomas Roe, Heritage Foundation board member and founder of the State Policy Network to fellow Heritage Foundation board member Robert Krieble. In 1989, the Krieble Institute was created "to promote democracy and economic freedom in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe." 1989: A Republican in Moscow (WaPo article about Weyrich holding mock elections) 1991: RUSSIA HOUSE, TRADING IN ITS NAME WaPo Article about the first ever go between for U.S. and Russian businesses involving Weyrich and Krieble PBS Documentary about Weyrich and Krieble involvement in Collapse of USSR Playing For Power (2012) permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -13 points 11 months ago (9 children) You realize that all of those are a massive failure right? Living in those places was and is a nightmare. You know that right? If not, then you're not smart enough to be replacing any form of government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Cowbee, you have an amazing ability to defend socialism and explain the same concepts day after day while never allowing frustration or anger to taint your replies. I salute you, comrade. 🖖 permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -14 points 11 months ago (4 children) You clearly have NO idea about how bad the USSR actually was. And you clearly have no idea how many of its citizens were killed by the government or died from starvation or cold. Not do you have any idea as to how much funding it was given from the US and other countries just to stay afloat (especially in WW2) because they couldn't organize their own factories that were useful etc etc and the US has to send OUR tank building teams over to them just to show them how to efficiently build tanks, and we sent them 13,000 tanks, 400,000 jeeps and trucks, and 14,000 aircraft. Aka the USSR couldn't even stand on its own 2 feet against Germany and we had to send them an insane amount of firepower to ensure them not falling. And about the life expectancy thing. It did double life expectancy between 1915 and the 1960s as did most countries around the world including the US due to improved birthrates and better sanitation and vaccines and antibiotics. However from 1960-1980 other countries like the US continued to go up while the USSR actually started declining again. So yes please continue to spread your false lies. And let's talk about how every one of those countries you spoke of couldn't survive without support from other countries. Meanwhile the country that you hate so much (the US) continues to survive and thrive while heavily supporting a dozen of other countries and are contributing some form of assistance to over 175 countries worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago Surgical Dissasembly of a Proud Cultist, Cowbee, oil and pastel, 2025. Acquired by museum same year permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (2 children) Oh I know exactly what I'm talking about. You're just brainwashed. Too far gone for anyone to talk sense into. And if you truly think that the USSR and Cuba didn't get much aid from other countries including the US, you really are just dumb. I do not have the time nor do I care enough to educate you. All I can say is, you really need to learn how to research FACTS not myths and lies. Also I have one more truth for you. COMMUNISM HAS NEVER WORKED. I know I know, maybe just another 20 or 30 genocides and world wars from now and they'll get the kinks worked out. But I doubt it. And maybe just maybe one will be able to survive without the help of a capitalist system and not end up being a 3rd world country with a shit economy. I personally have friends who grew up in Russia (it was still the USSR when they were about 10) and China and south Korea and Mexico and Vietnam. Every one of them will tell you how much better the US is than where they grew up. Communism is perfect on paper, but it will never ever work because it requires people to be perfect in order for it to work properly. And people will never be perfect. That's why capitalism and democracy works better because they at least somewhat keep that in check. My olive branch and honestly my best idea for what the US could become would be a socialist democracy similar to Sweden. That would actually be able to work and would be very beneficial for all the citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) You’re just brainwashed. You just arrived here on Lemmy, parroting every Redditor talking point, and we’re brainwashed? Sorry to pop the corporate media bubble you’d been living under. Also brainwashing isn’t real, in fact it was a CIA cold war psyop. The True Story of Brainwashing and How It Shaped America “Here, then, is the brief history of brainwashing,” [Timothy] Melley writes in a 2011 paper for Grey Room. “The concept began as an [O]rientalist propaganda fiction created by the CIA to mobilize domestic support for a massive military build-up. This fiction proved so effective that the CIA’s operations directorate believed it and began a furious search for a real mind control weapon. The search resulted not in a miraculous new weapon but a program of simulated brainwashing designed as a prophylactic against enemy mistreatment. This simulation in turn became the real basis for interrogating detainees in the war on terror.” Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) genocides Big fat 0, unless you mean the genocide communists thwarted in 1945 World wars Holy shit lmao, the sheer desperation and illiteracy it takes to try and pin the world wars on communism when ww1 started before there were any communist countries and ww2 was started by genocidal german capitalists. You are flailing, my guy. Red, mad and nude in the extreme. Also, format your shit permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) God, what a nightmare But maybe I'm just not smart enough to read this graph correctly. Maybe it's actually upside down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah because they expanded their healthcare system in 1949 as well and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics. Common sense is just a simple Google away lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) So what you're saying is that the CPC siezed power and then life in China immediately, rapidly improved to the point where their life expectancy is now higher than America's? Excellent, glad we're on the same page. and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics Oh, did they not have those things before the evil communists took over? How interesting permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) USSR Uhh.... History should teach you that the co-founder of the Heritage Foundation was traveling around Moscow and Eastern Europe when the Soviet Union collapsed, but it never really gets talked about for some reason. A conservative who essentially birthed Project 2025 and is famously quoted as saying "I don't want everyone to vote," was sneaking in computers and other electronics to Soviet dissidents while teaching soviet politicians all about American "democracy" just prior to the collapse. Then he and several other members of Heritage were ready to fill the power vacuum and help establish the first go between for U.S. and Russian capitalist businesses. "You capture the Soviet Union --I'm going to capture the states."-Thomas Roe, Heritage Foundation board member and founder of the State Policy Network to fellow Heritage Foundation board member Robert Krieble. In 1989, the Krieble Institute was created "to promote democracy and economic freedom in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe." 1989: A Republican in Moscow (WaPo article about Weyrich holding mock elections) 1991: RUSSIA HOUSE, TRADING IN ITS NAME WaPo Article about the first ever go between for U.S. and Russian businesses involving Weyrich and Krieble PBS Documentary about Weyrich and Krieble involvement in Collapse of USSR Playing For Power (2012) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -13 points 11 months ago (9 children) You realize that all of those are a massive failure right? Living in those places was and is a nightmare. You know that right? If not, then you're not smart enough to be replacing any form of government. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Cowbee, you have an amazing ability to defend socialism and explain the same concepts day after day while never allowing frustration or anger to taint your replies. I salute you, comrade. 🖖 permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -14 points 11 months ago (4 children) You clearly have NO idea about how bad the USSR actually was. And you clearly have no idea how many of its citizens were killed by the government or died from starvation or cold. Not do you have any idea as to how much funding it was given from the US and other countries just to stay afloat (especially in WW2) because they couldn't organize their own factories that were useful etc etc and the US has to send OUR tank building teams over to them just to show them how to efficiently build tanks, and we sent them 13,000 tanks, 400,000 jeeps and trucks, and 14,000 aircraft. Aka the USSR couldn't even stand on its own 2 feet against Germany and we had to send them an insane amount of firepower to ensure them not falling. And about the life expectancy thing. It did double life expectancy between 1915 and the 1960s as did most countries around the world including the US due to improved birthrates and better sanitation and vaccines and antibiotics. However from 1960-1980 other countries like the US continued to go up while the USSR actually started declining again. So yes please continue to spread your false lies. And let's talk about how every one of those countries you spoke of couldn't survive without support from other countries. Meanwhile the country that you hate so much (the US) continues to survive and thrive while heavily supporting a dozen of other countries and are contributing some form of assistance to over 175 countries worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago Surgical Dissasembly of a Proud Cultist, Cowbee, oil and pastel, 2025. Acquired by museum same year permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (2 children) Oh I know exactly what I'm talking about. You're just brainwashed. Too far gone for anyone to talk sense into. And if you truly think that the USSR and Cuba didn't get much aid from other countries including the US, you really are just dumb. I do not have the time nor do I care enough to educate you. All I can say is, you really need to learn how to research FACTS not myths and lies. Also I have one more truth for you. COMMUNISM HAS NEVER WORKED. I know I know, maybe just another 20 or 30 genocides and world wars from now and they'll get the kinks worked out. But I doubt it. And maybe just maybe one will be able to survive without the help of a capitalist system and not end up being a 3rd world country with a shit economy. I personally have friends who grew up in Russia (it was still the USSR when they were about 10) and China and south Korea and Mexico and Vietnam. Every one of them will tell you how much better the US is than where they grew up. Communism is perfect on paper, but it will never ever work because it requires people to be perfect in order for it to work properly. And people will never be perfect. That's why capitalism and democracy works better because they at least somewhat keep that in check. My olive branch and honestly my best idea for what the US could become would be a socialist democracy similar to Sweden. That would actually be able to work and would be very beneficial for all the citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) You’re just brainwashed. You just arrived here on Lemmy, parroting every Redditor talking point, and we’re brainwashed? Sorry to pop the corporate media bubble you’d been living under. Also brainwashing isn’t real, in fact it was a CIA cold war psyop. The True Story of Brainwashing and How It Shaped America “Here, then, is the brief history of brainwashing,” [Timothy] Melley writes in a 2011 paper for Grey Room. “The concept began as an [O]rientalist propaganda fiction created by the CIA to mobilize domestic support for a massive military build-up. This fiction proved so effective that the CIA’s operations directorate believed it and began a furious search for a real mind control weapon. The search resulted not in a miraculous new weapon but a program of simulated brainwashing designed as a prophylactic against enemy mistreatment. This simulation in turn became the real basis for interrogating detainees in the war on terror.” Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) genocides Big fat 0, unless you mean the genocide communists thwarted in 1945 World wars Holy shit lmao, the sheer desperation and illiteracy it takes to try and pin the world wars on communism when ww1 started before there were any communist countries and ww2 was started by genocidal german capitalists. You are flailing, my guy. Red, mad and nude in the extreme. Also, format your shit permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) God, what a nightmare But maybe I'm just not smart enough to read this graph correctly. Maybe it's actually upside down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah because they expanded their healthcare system in 1949 as well and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics. Common sense is just a simple Google away lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) So what you're saying is that the CPC siezed power and then life in China immediately, rapidly improved to the point where their life expectancy is now higher than America's? Excellent, glad we're on the same page. and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics Oh, did they not have those things before the evil communists took over? How interesting permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago (6 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Cowbee, you have an amazing ability to defend socialism and explain the same concepts day after day while never allowing frustration or anger to taint your replies. I salute you, comrade. 🖖 permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -14 points 11 months ago (4 children) You clearly have NO idea about how bad the USSR actually was. And you clearly have no idea how many of its citizens were killed by the government or died from starvation or cold. Not do you have any idea as to how much funding it was given from the US and other countries just to stay afloat (especially in WW2) because they couldn't organize their own factories that were useful etc etc and the US has to send OUR tank building teams over to them just to show them how to efficiently build tanks, and we sent them 13,000 tanks, 400,000 jeeps and trucks, and 14,000 aircraft. Aka the USSR couldn't even stand on its own 2 feet against Germany and we had to send them an insane amount of firepower to ensure them not falling. And about the life expectancy thing. It did double life expectancy between 1915 and the 1960s as did most countries around the world including the US due to improved birthrates and better sanitation and vaccines and antibiotics. However from 1960-1980 other countries like the US continued to go up while the USSR actually started declining again. So yes please continue to spread your false lies. And let's talk about how every one of those countries you spoke of couldn't survive without support from other countries. Meanwhile the country that you hate so much (the US) continues to survive and thrive while heavily supporting a dozen of other countries and are contributing some form of assistance to over 175 countries worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago Surgical Dissasembly of a Proud Cultist, Cowbee, oil and pastel, 2025. Acquired by museum same year permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (2 children) Oh I know exactly what I'm talking about. You're just brainwashed. Too far gone for anyone to talk sense into. And if you truly think that the USSR and Cuba didn't get much aid from other countries including the US, you really are just dumb. I do not have the time nor do I care enough to educate you. All I can say is, you really need to learn how to research FACTS not myths and lies. Also I have one more truth for you. COMMUNISM HAS NEVER WORKED. I know I know, maybe just another 20 or 30 genocides and world wars from now and they'll get the kinks worked out. But I doubt it. And maybe just maybe one will be able to survive without the help of a capitalist system and not end up being a 3rd world country with a shit economy. I personally have friends who grew up in Russia (it was still the USSR when they were about 10) and China and south Korea and Mexico and Vietnam. Every one of them will tell you how much better the US is than where they grew up. Communism is perfect on paper, but it will never ever work because it requires people to be perfect in order for it to work properly. And people will never be perfect. That's why capitalism and democracy works better because they at least somewhat keep that in check. My olive branch and honestly my best idea for what the US could become would be a socialist democracy similar to Sweden. That would actually be able to work and would be very beneficial for all the citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) You’re just brainwashed. You just arrived here on Lemmy, parroting every Redditor talking point, and we’re brainwashed? Sorry to pop the corporate media bubble you’d been living under. Also brainwashing isn’t real, in fact it was a CIA cold war psyop. The True Story of Brainwashing and How It Shaped America “Here, then, is the brief history of brainwashing,” [Timothy] Melley writes in a 2011 paper for Grey Room. “The concept began as an [O]rientalist propaganda fiction created by the CIA to mobilize domestic support for a massive military build-up. This fiction proved so effective that the CIA’s operations directorate believed it and began a furious search for a real mind control weapon. The search resulted not in a miraculous new weapon but a program of simulated brainwashing designed as a prophylactic against enemy mistreatment. This simulation in turn became the real basis for interrogating detainees in the war on terror.” Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) genocides Big fat 0, unless you mean the genocide communists thwarted in 1945 World wars Holy shit lmao, the sheer desperation and illiteracy it takes to try and pin the world wars on communism when ww1 started before there were any communist countries and ww2 was started by genocidal german capitalists. You are flailing, my guy. Red, mad and nude in the extreme. Also, format your shit permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago Cowbee, you have an amazing ability to defend socialism and explain the same concepts day after day while never allowing frustration or anger to taint your replies. I salute you, comrade. 🖖 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -14 points 11 months ago (4 children) You clearly have NO idea about how bad the USSR actually was. And you clearly have no idea how many of its citizens were killed by the government or died from starvation or cold. Not do you have any idea as to how much funding it was given from the US and other countries just to stay afloat (especially in WW2) because they couldn't organize their own factories that were useful etc etc and the US has to send OUR tank building teams over to them just to show them how to efficiently build tanks, and we sent them 13,000 tanks, 400,000 jeeps and trucks, and 14,000 aircraft. Aka the USSR couldn't even stand on its own 2 feet against Germany and we had to send them an insane amount of firepower to ensure them not falling. And about the life expectancy thing. It did double life expectancy between 1915 and the 1960s as did most countries around the world including the US due to improved birthrates and better sanitation and vaccines and antibiotics. However from 1960-1980 other countries like the US continued to go up while the USSR actually started declining again. So yes please continue to spread your false lies. And let's talk about how every one of those countries you spoke of couldn't survive without support from other countries. Meanwhile the country that you hate so much (the US) continues to survive and thrive while heavily supporting a dozen of other countries and are contributing some form of assistance to over 175 countries worldwide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago Surgical Dissasembly of a Proud Cultist, Cowbee, oil and pastel, 2025. Acquired by museum same year permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (2 children) Oh I know exactly what I'm talking about. You're just brainwashed. Too far gone for anyone to talk sense into. And if you truly think that the USSR and Cuba didn't get much aid from other countries including the US, you really are just dumb. I do not have the time nor do I care enough to educate you. All I can say is, you really need to learn how to research FACTS not myths and lies. Also I have one more truth for you. COMMUNISM HAS NEVER WORKED. I know I know, maybe just another 20 or 30 genocides and world wars from now and they'll get the kinks worked out. But I doubt it. And maybe just maybe one will be able to survive without the help of a capitalist system and not end up being a 3rd world country with a shit economy. I personally have friends who grew up in Russia (it was still the USSR when they were about 10) and China and south Korea and Mexico and Vietnam. Every one of them will tell you how much better the US is than where they grew up. Communism is perfect on paper, but it will never ever work because it requires people to be perfect in order for it to work properly. And people will never be perfect. That's why capitalism and democracy works better because they at least somewhat keep that in check. My olive branch and honestly my best idea for what the US could become would be a socialist democracy similar to Sweden. That would actually be able to work and would be very beneficial for all the citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) You’re just brainwashed. You just arrived here on Lemmy, parroting every Redditor talking point, and we’re brainwashed? Sorry to pop the corporate media bubble you’d been living under. Also brainwashing isn’t real, in fact it was a CIA cold war psyop. The True Story of Brainwashing and How It Shaped America “Here, then, is the brief history of brainwashing,” [Timothy] Melley writes in a 2011 paper for Grey Room. “The concept began as an [O]rientalist propaganda fiction created by the CIA to mobilize domestic support for a massive military build-up. This fiction proved so effective that the CIA’s operations directorate believed it and began a furious search for a real mind control weapon. The search resulted not in a miraculous new weapon but a program of simulated brainwashing designed as a prophylactic against enemy mistreatment. This simulation in turn became the real basis for interrogating detainees in the war on terror.” Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) genocides Big fat 0, unless you mean the genocide communists thwarted in 1945 World wars Holy shit lmao, the sheer desperation and illiteracy it takes to try and pin the world wars on communism when ww1 started before there were any communist countries and ww2 was started by genocidal german capitalists. You are flailing, my guy. Red, mad and nude in the extreme. Also, format your shit permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago Surgical Dissasembly of a Proud Cultist, Cowbee, oil and pastel, 2025. Acquired by museum same year permalink fedilink source parent [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (2 children) Oh I know exactly what I'm talking about. You're just brainwashed. Too far gone for anyone to talk sense into. And if you truly think that the USSR and Cuba didn't get much aid from other countries including the US, you really are just dumb. I do not have the time nor do I care enough to educate you. All I can say is, you really need to learn how to research FACTS not myths and lies. Also I have one more truth for you. COMMUNISM HAS NEVER WORKED. I know I know, maybe just another 20 or 30 genocides and world wars from now and they'll get the kinks worked out. But I doubt it. And maybe just maybe one will be able to survive without the help of a capitalist system and not end up being a 3rd world country with a shit economy. I personally have friends who grew up in Russia (it was still the USSR when they were about 10) and China and south Korea and Mexico and Vietnam. Every one of them will tell you how much better the US is than where they grew up. Communism is perfect on paper, but it will never ever work because it requires people to be perfect in order for it to work properly. And people will never be perfect. That's why capitalism and democracy works better because they at least somewhat keep that in check. My olive branch and honestly my best idea for what the US could become would be a socialist democracy similar to Sweden. That would actually be able to work and would be very beneficial for all the citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) You’re just brainwashed. You just arrived here on Lemmy, parroting every Redditor talking point, and we’re brainwashed? Sorry to pop the corporate media bubble you’d been living under. Also brainwashing isn’t real, in fact it was a CIA cold war psyop. The True Story of Brainwashing and How It Shaped America “Here, then, is the brief history of brainwashing,” [Timothy] Melley writes in a 2011 paper for Grey Room. “The concept began as an [O]rientalist propaganda fiction created by the CIA to mobilize domestic support for a massive military build-up. This fiction proved so effective that the CIA’s operations directorate believed it and began a furious search for a real mind control weapon. The search resulted not in a miraculous new weapon but a program of simulated brainwashing designed as a prophylactic against enemy mistreatment. This simulation in turn became the real basis for interrogating detainees in the war on terror.” Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) genocides Big fat 0, unless you mean the genocide communists thwarted in 1945 World wars Holy shit lmao, the sheer desperation and illiteracy it takes to try and pin the world wars on communism when ww1 started before there were any communist countries and ww2 was started by genocidal german capitalists. You are flailing, my guy. Red, mad and nude in the extreme. Also, format your shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago Surgical Dissasembly of a Proud Cultist, Cowbee, oil and pastel, 2025. Acquired by museum same year permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (2 children) Oh I know exactly what I'm talking about. You're just brainwashed. Too far gone for anyone to talk sense into. And if you truly think that the USSR and Cuba didn't get much aid from other countries including the US, you really are just dumb. I do not have the time nor do I care enough to educate you. All I can say is, you really need to learn how to research FACTS not myths and lies. Also I have one more truth for you. COMMUNISM HAS NEVER WORKED. I know I know, maybe just another 20 or 30 genocides and world wars from now and they'll get the kinks worked out. But I doubt it. And maybe just maybe one will be able to survive without the help of a capitalist system and not end up being a 3rd world country with a shit economy. I personally have friends who grew up in Russia (it was still the USSR when they were about 10) and China and south Korea and Mexico and Vietnam. Every one of them will tell you how much better the US is than where they grew up. Communism is perfect on paper, but it will never ever work because it requires people to be perfect in order for it to work properly. And people will never be perfect. That's why capitalism and democracy works better because they at least somewhat keep that in check. My olive branch and honestly my best idea for what the US could become would be a socialist democracy similar to Sweden. That would actually be able to work and would be very beneficial for all the citizens. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) You’re just brainwashed. You just arrived here on Lemmy, parroting every Redditor talking point, and we’re brainwashed? Sorry to pop the corporate media bubble you’d been living under. Also brainwashing isn’t real, in fact it was a CIA cold war psyop. The True Story of Brainwashing and How It Shaped America “Here, then, is the brief history of brainwashing,” [Timothy] Melley writes in a 2011 paper for Grey Room. “The concept began as an [O]rientalist propaganda fiction created by the CIA to mobilize domestic support for a massive military build-up. This fiction proved so effective that the CIA’s operations directorate believed it and began a furious search for a real mind control weapon. The search resulted not in a miraculous new weapon but a program of simulated brainwashing designed as a prophylactic against enemy mistreatment. This simulation in turn became the real basis for interrogating detainees in the war on terror.” Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” permalink fedilink source parent [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) genocides Big fat 0, unless you mean the genocide communists thwarted in 1945 World wars Holy shit lmao, the sheer desperation and illiteracy it takes to try and pin the world wars on communism when ww1 started before there were any communist countries and ww2 was started by genocidal german capitalists. You are flailing, my guy. Red, mad and nude in the extreme. Also, format your shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) You’re just brainwashed. You just arrived here on Lemmy, parroting every Redditor talking point, and we’re brainwashed? Sorry to pop the corporate media bubble you’d been living under. Also brainwashing isn’t real, in fact it was a CIA cold war psyop. The True Story of Brainwashing and How It Shaped America “Here, then, is the brief history of brainwashing,” [Timothy] Melley writes in a 2011 paper for Grey Room. “The concept began as an [O]rientalist propaganda fiction created by the CIA to mobilize domestic support for a massive military build-up. This fiction proved so effective that the CIA’s operations directorate believed it and began a furious search for a real mind control weapon. The search resulted not in a miraculous new weapon but a program of simulated brainwashing designed as a prophylactic against enemy mistreatment. This simulation in turn became the real basis for interrogating detainees in the war on terror.” Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) genocides Big fat 0, unless you mean the genocide communists thwarted in 1945 World wars Holy shit lmao, the sheer desperation and illiteracy it takes to try and pin the world wars on communism when ww1 started before there were any communist countries and ww2 was started by genocidal german capitalists. You are flailing, my guy. Red, mad and nude in the extreme. Also, format your shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children) God, what a nightmare But maybe I'm just not smart enough to read this graph correctly. Maybe it's actually upside down. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah because they expanded their healthcare system in 1949 as well and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics. Common sense is just a simple Google away lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) So what you're saying is that the CPC siezed power and then life in China immediately, rapidly improved to the point where their life expectancy is now higher than America's? Excellent, glad we're on the same page. and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics Oh, did they not have those things before the evil communists took over? How interesting permalink fedilink source parent
[+] nolikeymachine@lemmy.zip -9 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah because they expanded their healthcare system in 1949 as well and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics. Common sense is just a simple Google away lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) So what you're saying is that the CPC siezed power and then life in China immediately, rapidly improved to the point where their life expectancy is now higher than America's? Excellent, glad we're on the same page. and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics Oh, did they not have those things before the evil communists took over? How interesting permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) So what you're saying is that the CPC siezed power and then life in China immediately, rapidly improved to the point where their life expectancy is now higher than America's? Excellent, glad we're on the same page. and actually started heavily using vaccines and antibiotics Oh, did they not have those things before the evil communists took over? How interesting permalink fedilink source parent