Deyis comments on "It's extremely frustrating and also f*cked up" - one of the world's best indie studios is facing shock closure following confounding Steam ban [Eurogamer]

[–] Deyis@beehaw.org 14 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Have an X rating doesn't absolve you of criticism or protect you from backlash when you include a sequence involving a naked adult and a child.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social -3 points 11 months ago (8 children)

yeah but it should be on the author not the distributor and those people wigging out are more the issue.

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[–] Deyis@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Sure but you must realise that if Steam were to platform a game featuring a child riding a naked adult in a horse mask, a sequence that the devs have removed in order to have the game on any platform for sale at all, Steam would face a significant amount of backlash and potential legal action for doing so. Why should Steam be obligated to publish a game?

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 0 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I don't think obligated as much as they should not be concerned and there should be no backlash to them for stocking it as long as its separated appropriately. Video storms had porn rooms in the back of the store with some signage and people seemed to be able to handle it and get its an adult thing. Heck maybe even have a second but related steam.XXX site where you have to do bullshit verification to peruse. Then require any game that goes over some threshold of whatever to only be visible there. people can login with their steam accounts and have them connected provided they jump the additional hoops. these things are not impossible to work with.

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[–] Deyis@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Whether you believe a platform should get backlash for platforming something in questionable taste and legality is entirely separate to whether they actually will.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

well of course. if the state said take it down it would be different but this situation does not seem to have any legal issues.

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[–] Deyis@beehaw.org 1 point 11 months ago (3 children)

The majority of countries where Steam sells games have strict laws regarding the depiction of minors in any kind of situation which could be considered sexual, whether it's a real child or not. It's a very strange hill to die on when the devs clearly identified that was the issue and removed it from their game.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

Im pretty much always against censorship. As described it does not sound sexual as its just nudity and this riding thing. I mean nobody talks about lady gadiva like she fucked a horse. The hill to die on is weird to me to use in this situation. Its one conversation about something that neither of us has any ability to effect.

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[–] Deyis@beehaw.org 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

Not wanting to sell a product isn't censorship of the product. That's a fundamental misunderstanding of what censorship is.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 point 11 months ago

I think the misunderstanding is with you.

Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information that may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically inconvenient, or morally questionable by an authority or group.

In this case the group is steam. Government censorship is not the only kind. You can have corporate and even self.

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