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submitted 11 months ago by to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
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[+] -7 points 11 months ago (14 children)

The absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    There's a complete absence of evidence for everything you can just make up.

    I claim that the universe was created by Ralph the Wonderllama who lives on Proxima Centauri B and who owns all albums by Simply Red.

    But hey, no evidence of absence, right? So my claim is valid, right? And you suddenly don't care how unlikely it is, right?

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I claim that the universe was created by Ralph the Wonderllama who lives on Proxima Centauri B and who owns all albums by Simply Red.

    And I respect that belief

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah but respect isn't proof, and you're the one that made the assertion requiring evidence here...

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    And I respect that you are critical of what I said! We need critics to grow. A critical mind is a gift of God

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    Oh, you're trolling. Alright, fair enough. I gotta ask though, why troll in defense of the christians? They're doing more than enough to destroy society without your helping out on their behalf by sowing nonsense like this.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Yes, but absence of evidence isn't evidence for anything.

    It's wild how many need to find them some scientific method.

    I was only pointing out, in my original comment, that I'm sure around the world people pray/say all sorts of things when a plane is crashing, not just the Christian god. But because they're only focusing on crashes in the US, they are concluding that everyone prays to god (presumably, the Christian one).

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Wow thats deep

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago*

    (dunno if you're being sarcastic)

    It's just a twee catchphrase christians came up with to say you can't prove a negative. It's not anything new, and it's not actually contributing anything. It's a core aspect of "burden of proof", and this is just a way of shifting said burden to the people asking for evidence of the divine instead of leaving it on the people asserting that the divine exists in the first place.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    so you didn't know which god saved them either. It could be the flying spaghetti monster. (note the existence of this religion is literally based on your statement)

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    so you didn't know which god saved them either.

    Neither do you.

    note the existence of this religion is literally based on your statement

    That's demonstrably false. I made my statement yesterday and religions exist for way over 70 years. Destroyed by pure logic. Checkmate atheist.

    If you want to know what really starts religions, check out Daniel O. McClellan's book "YHWH divine images" chapter 2. You find the PDF for free just by searching the title.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago*

    Neither do you.

    Yes, but importantly you can't demonstrate that it was a god that saved them. We'll deal with the issue of which one it was once we get past that first problem.

    That’s demonstrably false.

    Er... Well, this seems like a great opportunity for you to prove that. Though I suspect you misunderstood the initial comment here.

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