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[–] 48 points 11 months ago (11 children)

But it’s limited, because most of that distribution and transfer comes from individual taxpayers,

This is the real truth of it. You don't really have state governments sending tax payments to the federal government, they're not collecting the federal taxes from their residents. You'd basically have to get every employer in the state to stop sending in the tax payments on employees' behalf. And then every resident would have to also not pay those taxes individually.

I mean, it would be an amazing feat and a really strong signal to have that much unity to do it. But seems really unlikely for any state-wide population to be that well co-ordinated and unified.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The state also pays a lot of people.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    This is the real truth of it.

    There's always some naysayer in these threads with this tired aCkShUaLlY argument, and it is capitulative bullshit.

    State payrolls are significant, any governor could easily setup an escrow account, divert all state payroll federal taxes to it, and use it for any shortfalls. They could then create a mechanism within their own state tax system and allow employers to opt in.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago

    There’s always some naysayer in these threads with this tired aCkShUaLlY argument, and it is capitulative bullshit.

    Giving people a false expectation on what a state government can unilaterally do here doesn't help anyone.

    State payrolls are significant, any governor could easily setup an escrow account, divert all state payroll federal taxes to it, and use it for any shortfalls.

    Of course. In most states that was under 20% of the population in 2021, and that percentage include federal government employees. So still >80% of the federal tax payments from residents aren't included in that.

    They could then create a mechanism within their own state tax system and allow employers to opt in.

    Yes, this is quite consistent with what I said about having to get employers to stop withholding tax payments for their employees. The state can provide a mechanism for the >80% of its residents who work in the private sector. And then it's up to all of them to go along with it.

    I'm not sure what it is you needed to clarify for me or deride me over. You haven't aCkShUaLlY contradicted anything I said.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That's a great idea for state employees. We are also getting a much larger SALT deduction next year from the One Blows Bubba Bill. Salt cap goes up to $40k. So if New Jersey temporarily increases state income taxes to the level of federal taxes, they could shift the tax revenue away from federal and towards state taxes.

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  • [+] -14 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    There's always some naysayer in these threads with this tired aCkShUaLlY argument

    Shut the fuck up and let people speak.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Lmfao the irony in that statement

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago

    It’s ok to be intolerant of intolerance. It’s not ok to be intolerant of other viewpoints. Mocking other people’s viewpoints is not a perspective, it’s just trash. Hope this helps. Go ahead and downvote me.

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