▲ 609 ▼ Chuck Schumer Helps Pull Democrats Back From Brink Of Courage (theonion.com) submitted 1 year ago by ZeroCool@lemmy.ca to c/theonion@midwest.social 55 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] TheBat@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (15 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 1 year ago (3 children) We can't do that, that's against the rules! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 14 points 1 year ago a popular American pastime that could be resurrected permalink fedilink source parent [–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago Flips furiously through rulebook Uh, uhhh, ummm, uhhh, well it's not against the rules per se but it would make the imaginary Bailey family sad so that's that :( permalink fedilink source parent [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago (2 children) Things will have to be a lot worse before people sign up to go die in a war. Everyone online is so brave when telling others to go die permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Worse than starving??! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago The vast majority of the population is not starving. SNAP/EBT not receiving funding is certainly terrible, but this only directly impacts 12% of Americans. That is not an insignificant number. However, out of that 12%, 40% are children and 20% are elderly. So only 5% of Americans receiving benefits are not old or children. Doesn't seem like enough people to start a revolution. I think these numbers do outline how horrific it is, considering food is mostly being taken from the elderly and children. But I think you can quickly see why these people are not rushing off to start a war. Additionally it's been 10 days and food banks have been able to give out substantial aid. Only a subsection of those people would have ended up missing meals, and some states even funded the program through their own emergency reserves further reducing the number of impacted individuals. My point is let's not act like it's the lead up to the French revolution and children and dying in the streets of starvation. I don't want to lessen the impacts this has had to many Americans. It has unduly caused suffering. But is it enough suffering for people to risk their lives and take up arms against the government? Is 12% of the population not receiving food aid a reason to start what would be a bloody civil war? That's up for each person to decide when they are willing to die to uphold their moral convictions. Would you be rushing to start a war? Would you go to die for this? It's easy to tell others to do so, but when the time comes its not so easy permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago I'm so fucking sick of this. I can't say anything more because it would be unwise for a variety of reasons. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (6 children) The American public at large who has problems with fascists has been brainwashed into thinking violence is not the answer for decades. The only people in the US who hate fascists and think violence SHOULD be used against them are a very small minority, who ALSO do not want to start shooting first because winning the narrative is just as important as the rebellious act itself. Basically, until the current administration does villainy on the level of the Wounded Knee Massacre, no one will shoot at them. Until that happens, most people are rebelling in ways that are mostly disruptive. Don't get me wrong tho, that IS still a valid form of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] guy@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago (3 children) Violence is not the answer in a democracy. Unless, you know, fascists capture the state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) When fascists capture the state it isn't a democracy anymore so the first sentence still stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I'm very exited to see Freedom house's next country report of the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Now where have I seen this before..? Hmmm... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) An effective form in fact! https://left-tusk.com/@BlueDot/115186087396107442 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago You're forgetting that the only reason those were successful was because of the threat of violent resistance behind it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 1 year ago (3 children) We can't do that, that's against the rules! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 14 points 1 year ago a popular American pastime that could be resurrected permalink fedilink source parent [–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago Flips furiously through rulebook Uh, uhhh, ummm, uhhh, well it's not against the rules per se but it would make the imaginary Bailey family sad so that's that :( permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 14 points 1 year ago a popular American pastime that could be resurrected permalink fedilink source parent [–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago Flips furiously through rulebook Uh, uhhh, ummm, uhhh, well it's not against the rules per se but it would make the imaginary Bailey family sad so that's that :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ragingHungryPanda@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com 14 points 1 year ago a popular American pastime that could be resurrected permalink fedilink source parent
[–] borf@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago Flips furiously through rulebook Uh, uhhh, ummm, uhhh, well it's not against the rules per se but it would make the imaginary Bailey family sad so that's that :( permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago (2 children) Things will have to be a lot worse before people sign up to go die in a war. Everyone online is so brave when telling others to go die permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Worse than starving??! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago The vast majority of the population is not starving. SNAP/EBT not receiving funding is certainly terrible, but this only directly impacts 12% of Americans. That is not an insignificant number. However, out of that 12%, 40% are children and 20% are elderly. So only 5% of Americans receiving benefits are not old or children. Doesn't seem like enough people to start a revolution. I think these numbers do outline how horrific it is, considering food is mostly being taken from the elderly and children. But I think you can quickly see why these people are not rushing off to start a war. Additionally it's been 10 days and food banks have been able to give out substantial aid. Only a subsection of those people would have ended up missing meals, and some states even funded the program through their own emergency reserves further reducing the number of impacted individuals. My point is let's not act like it's the lead up to the French revolution and children and dying in the streets of starvation. I don't want to lessen the impacts this has had to many Americans. It has unduly caused suffering. But is it enough suffering for people to risk their lives and take up arms against the government? Is 12% of the population not receiving food aid a reason to start what would be a bloody civil war? That's up for each person to decide when they are willing to die to uphold their moral convictions. Would you be rushing to start a war? Would you go to die for this? It's easy to tell others to do so, but when the time comes its not so easy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Worse than starving??! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago The vast majority of the population is not starving. SNAP/EBT not receiving funding is certainly terrible, but this only directly impacts 12% of Americans. That is not an insignificant number. However, out of that 12%, 40% are children and 20% are elderly. So only 5% of Americans receiving benefits are not old or children. Doesn't seem like enough people to start a revolution. I think these numbers do outline how horrific it is, considering food is mostly being taken from the elderly and children. But I think you can quickly see why these people are not rushing off to start a war. Additionally it's been 10 days and food banks have been able to give out substantial aid. Only a subsection of those people would have ended up missing meals, and some states even funded the program through their own emergency reserves further reducing the number of impacted individuals. My point is let's not act like it's the lead up to the French revolution and children and dying in the streets of starvation. I don't want to lessen the impacts this has had to many Americans. It has unduly caused suffering. But is it enough suffering for people to risk their lives and take up arms against the government? Is 12% of the population not receiving food aid a reason to start what would be a bloody civil war? That's up for each person to decide when they are willing to die to uphold their moral convictions. Would you be rushing to start a war? Would you go to die for this? It's easy to tell others to do so, but when the time comes its not so easy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago The vast majority of the population is not starving. SNAP/EBT not receiving funding is certainly terrible, but this only directly impacts 12% of Americans. That is not an insignificant number. However, out of that 12%, 40% are children and 20% are elderly. So only 5% of Americans receiving benefits are not old or children. Doesn't seem like enough people to start a revolution. I think these numbers do outline how horrific it is, considering food is mostly being taken from the elderly and children. But I think you can quickly see why these people are not rushing off to start a war. Additionally it's been 10 days and food banks have been able to give out substantial aid. Only a subsection of those people would have ended up missing meals, and some states even funded the program through their own emergency reserves further reducing the number of impacted individuals. My point is let's not act like it's the lead up to the French revolution and children and dying in the streets of starvation. I don't want to lessen the impacts this has had to many Americans. It has unduly caused suffering. But is it enough suffering for people to risk their lives and take up arms against the government? Is 12% of the population not receiving food aid a reason to start what would be a bloody civil war? That's up for each person to decide when they are willing to die to uphold their moral convictions. Would you be rushing to start a war? Would you go to die for this? It's easy to tell others to do so, but when the time comes its not so easy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago I'm so fucking sick of this. I can't say anything more because it would be unwise for a variety of reasons. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (6 children) The American public at large who has problems with fascists has been brainwashed into thinking violence is not the answer for decades. The only people in the US who hate fascists and think violence SHOULD be used against them are a very small minority, who ALSO do not want to start shooting first because winning the narrative is just as important as the rebellious act itself. Basically, until the current administration does villainy on the level of the Wounded Knee Massacre, no one will shoot at them. Until that happens, most people are rebelling in ways that are mostly disruptive. Don't get me wrong tho, that IS still a valid form of rebellion. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] guy@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago (3 children) Violence is not the answer in a democracy. Unless, you know, fascists capture the state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) When fascists capture the state it isn't a democracy anymore so the first sentence still stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I'm very exited to see Freedom house's next country report of the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Now where have I seen this before..? Hmmm... permalink fedilink source parent [–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) An effective form in fact! https://left-tusk.com/@BlueDot/115186087396107442 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago You're forgetting that the only reason those were successful was because of the threat of violent resistance behind it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guy@piefed.social 10 points 1 year ago (3 children) Violence is not the answer in a democracy. Unless, you know, fascists capture the state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) When fascists capture the state it isn't a democracy anymore so the first sentence still stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I'm very exited to see Freedom house's next country report of the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Now where have I seen this before..? Hmmm... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@piefed.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) When fascists capture the state it isn't a democracy anymore so the first sentence still stands. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I'm very exited to see Freedom house's next country report of the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] guy@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago I'm very exited to see Freedom house's next country report of the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Now where have I seen this before..? Hmmm... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) An effective form in fact! https://left-tusk.com/@BlueDot/115186087396107442 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago You're forgetting that the only reason those were successful was because of the threat of violent resistance behind it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago You're forgetting that the only reason those were successful was because of the threat of violent resistance behind it. permalink fedilink source parent