▲ 680 ▼ Is Fast Charging Killing the Battery? A 2-Year Test on 40 Phones (www.youtube.com) submitted 1 year ago by popcar2@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world 163 comments fedilink hide all child comments TL;DW: Fast charging over 2 years only degraded the battery an extra 0.5%, even on extremely fast charging Android phones using 120W. And with that, hopefully we can put this argument to rest.
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 1 point 1 year ago (13 children) If you'd watch the video you may realize it's not needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) The point is that I never had to care about battery management for years. I just leave the phone doing its thing. Not that it's useful or not useful to do so. The whole point is that I leave that in the hand of people that know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Well not charging to 100% all the time will improve your battery life, and if you keep your devices a long time and have a usage pattern that allows charging it less like I do (I leave mine on a wireless charge pad at work), then it makes sense to make some adjustments to that particular setting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Nah, I can't be bothered by that. And the only device's battery I really had issues with was a seven years old laptop, years ago. BMS and software will almost always know better than the user these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Max charge level is not something the BMS can decide for you because it's a trade off between battery health and daily charge level. That's why they ask you to choose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Who's doing the asking there? Neither my laptop nor my phones asked anything. According to the settings on my current phone, the automatic setting will decide by itself to limit the maximum charge overnight, then plan to go full charge around the time my alarm should fire. But, again, that's the kind of micromanagement that would yield a tiny fraction of "maybe improvement" over the lifetime of the damn thing. I'd rather have a device works all the time for 6 years than have a device that's sometime undercharged for 6.1 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago Depends on the phone I'm sure but every device I own has this setting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago But the point of this video is whether the things you have control over make a significant difference. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (5 children) No need to wait aeons for someone who enjoys the sound of their own voice to slowly and laboriously explain it like astronomy to a dog. Someone wrote 15 words and I read it in about a half-second. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] papalonian@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not saying your opinion is wrong or that you have to watch the video or anything like that, but videos like this are made so that you can see the testing procedure and judge it's validity without just having to assume they did their job right. I wouldn't trust someone just saying "yup, tried it out, doesn't really matter 👍🏽" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah I mean there is a progress bar, you can just jump to the results if you are in a hurry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You can if you just want the results but the value of a video like this is going over the process and the detail, so you know how much to trust it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm sorry that you're allergic to information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Given that video is the format with generally the lowest useful information transmission rate, I think you've got that the other way around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (6 children) The point is that I never had to care about battery management for years. I just leave the phone doing its thing. Not that it's useful or not useful to do so. The whole point is that I leave that in the hand of people that know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Well not charging to 100% all the time will improve your battery life, and if you keep your devices a long time and have a usage pattern that allows charging it less like I do (I leave mine on a wireless charge pad at work), then it makes sense to make some adjustments to that particular setting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Nah, I can't be bothered by that. And the only device's battery I really had issues with was a seven years old laptop, years ago. BMS and software will almost always know better than the user these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Max charge level is not something the BMS can decide for you because it's a trade off between battery health and daily charge level. That's why they ask you to choose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Who's doing the asking there? Neither my laptop nor my phones asked anything. According to the settings on my current phone, the automatic setting will decide by itself to limit the maximum charge overnight, then plan to go full charge around the time my alarm should fire. But, again, that's the kind of micromanagement that would yield a tiny fraction of "maybe improvement" over the lifetime of the damn thing. I'd rather have a device works all the time for 6 years than have a device that's sometime undercharged for 6.1 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago Depends on the phone I'm sure but every device I own has this setting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago But the point of this video is whether the things you have control over make a significant difference. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children) Well not charging to 100% all the time will improve your battery life, and if you keep your devices a long time and have a usage pattern that allows charging it less like I do (I leave mine on a wireless charge pad at work), then it makes sense to make some adjustments to that particular setting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Nah, I can't be bothered by that. And the only device's battery I really had issues with was a seven years old laptop, years ago. BMS and software will almost always know better than the user these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Max charge level is not something the BMS can decide for you because it's a trade off between battery health and daily charge level. That's why they ask you to choose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Who's doing the asking there? Neither my laptop nor my phones asked anything. According to the settings on my current phone, the automatic setting will decide by itself to limit the maximum charge overnight, then plan to go full charge around the time my alarm should fire. But, again, that's the kind of micromanagement that would yield a tiny fraction of "maybe improvement" over the lifetime of the damn thing. I'd rather have a device works all the time for 6 years than have a device that's sometime undercharged for 6.1 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago Depends on the phone I'm sure but every device I own has this setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) Nah, I can't be bothered by that. And the only device's battery I really had issues with was a seven years old laptop, years ago. BMS and software will almost always know better than the user these days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Max charge level is not something the BMS can decide for you because it's a trade off between battery health and daily charge level. That's why they ask you to choose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Who's doing the asking there? Neither my laptop nor my phones asked anything. According to the settings on my current phone, the automatic setting will decide by itself to limit the maximum charge overnight, then plan to go full charge around the time my alarm should fire. But, again, that's the kind of micromanagement that would yield a tiny fraction of "maybe improvement" over the lifetime of the damn thing. I'd rather have a device works all the time for 6 years than have a device that's sometime undercharged for 6.1 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago Depends on the phone I'm sure but every device I own has this setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Max charge level is not something the BMS can decide for you because it's a trade off between battery health and daily charge level. That's why they ask you to choose. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Who's doing the asking there? Neither my laptop nor my phones asked anything. According to the settings on my current phone, the automatic setting will decide by itself to limit the maximum charge overnight, then plan to go full charge around the time my alarm should fire. But, again, that's the kind of micromanagement that would yield a tiny fraction of "maybe improvement" over the lifetime of the damn thing. I'd rather have a device works all the time for 6 years than have a device that's sometime undercharged for 6.1 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago Depends on the phone I'm sure but every device I own has this setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Who's doing the asking there? Neither my laptop nor my phones asked anything. According to the settings on my current phone, the automatic setting will decide by itself to limit the maximum charge overnight, then plan to go full charge around the time my alarm should fire. But, again, that's the kind of micromanagement that would yield a tiny fraction of "maybe improvement" over the lifetime of the damn thing. I'd rather have a device works all the time for 6 years than have a device that's sometime undercharged for 6.1 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago Depends on the phone I'm sure but every device I own has this setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 2 points 1 year ago Depends on the phone I'm sure but every device I own has this setting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago But the point of this video is whether the things you have control over make a significant difference. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (5 children) No need to wait aeons for someone who enjoys the sound of their own voice to slowly and laboriously explain it like astronomy to a dog. Someone wrote 15 words and I read it in about a half-second. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] papalonian@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not saying your opinion is wrong or that you have to watch the video or anything like that, but videos like this are made so that you can see the testing procedure and judge it's validity without just having to assume they did their job right. I wouldn't trust someone just saying "yup, tried it out, doesn't really matter 👍🏽" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah I mean there is a progress bar, you can just jump to the results if you are in a hurry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You can if you just want the results but the value of a video like this is going over the process and the detail, so you know how much to trust it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm sorry that you're allergic to information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Given that video is the format with generally the lowest useful information transmission rate, I think you've got that the other way around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children) I'm not saying your opinion is wrong or that you have to watch the video or anything like that, but videos like this are made so that you can see the testing procedure and judge it's validity without just having to assume they did their job right. I wouldn't trust someone just saying "yup, tried it out, doesn't really matter 👍🏽" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] realitista@lemmus.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah I mean there is a progress bar, you can just jump to the results if you are in a hurry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You can if you just want the results but the value of a video like this is going over the process and the detail, so you know how much to trust it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] realitista@lemmus.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yeah I mean there is a progress bar, you can just jump to the results if you are in a hurry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You can if you just want the results but the value of a video like this is going over the process and the detail, so you know how much to trust it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago You can if you just want the results but the value of a video like this is going over the process and the detail, so you know how much to trust it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 3 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm sorry that you're allergic to information. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Given that video is the format with generally the lowest useful information transmission rate, I think you've got that the other way around. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago Given that video is the format with generally the lowest useful information transmission rate, I think you've got that the other way around. permalink fedilink source parent