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What does Oracle actually do? Take other businesses' data hostage for profit | Good Work [11:47] (www.youtube.com)
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[–] 65 points 1 year ago (15 children)

Oracle makes the worst database system ever imagined by anyone ever. Can't even insert multiple rows in the same statement, you have to put multiple insert statements and Oracle sues you for dreaming about any other database.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Techs like to deride sales and managers for incompetence. But Oracle is proof that salesmanship and suits can take garbage and make billions.

    I remember around 1990 when Oracle handled their tech problems by making it illegal to review their product. ( You had to purchase their product to use it or be sued. And the purchase agreement required that you not publish a review of the product without their approval or be sued.)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I would argue that selling a product that engineers need to create and maintain at great cost to the company (both monetary and in terms of frustration etc) and customer relations is in fact incompetence.

    or at least that's how I see if from my own dealings with the sales guy at work. "okay yes I see you have an idea, but can we nail down a product definition, describe where we add value, and identify how it is different than these two other globally established products on the market right now?" nope, all he could do was be a little bitch about it. apparently he had customers lined up, though.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    and Oracle sues you for dreaming about any other database.

    What's this?

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Oracle sues for everything, when they sue you, they can ask for their payment to be related to the total employees of the company, to take that as users of the Oracle Database (trademark)(copyright)(shat my pants) or Java (do I need to repeat?). Yeah, they sue for EVERYTHING.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Can I get an article/source about this? I'm in the mood to be mad about Oracle

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I can chime in here with “my former employer hired a full-time lawyer after being sued by Oracle over something trivial”. Company of less than 200. They settled and they still have at least one permanent legal staffer.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    The video glances at this, but this happened where I work, so I can't give the direct sources for the case against the place I work, but if even the Oracle employees talk about the draconic bullshit Oracle does, imagine what happens to the companies/governments they sue.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oracle licenses software by CPU (or at least they did). But not in the way you think, they mean by discrete logical CPUs. So if you virtualize one of their apps and give the VM 4 CPUs, do you need four licenses? No, since it could run on any of the CPUs in the host, you need to buy however many that is.

    I went to look for more info on this and couldn't find anything reliable, but I did find an article from Amazon saying that if you run something like this in AWS, you need enough licenses to cover the entire goddamn AWS zone.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    This is one of the issues with the tech side of their business. They've been around a long time, and certain features that other databases had in the 90s were just put into Oracle a few years back. Devs don't always have a good handle on the new capabilities, especially when the old code without the feature is done and working.

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