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Linus Torvalds and Bill Gates Meet for the First Time Ever (www.theverge.com)
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Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds have apparently never met in person before, despite their pseudo-rivalry.

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[–] 95 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Top comment on that page is perfect:

One wrote their own operating system incorporating others ideas on operating systems, the other's mom bought theirs.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Torvalds wrote the kernel, not the operating system. It's a part of the GNU/Linux OS ;)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The kernel is the OS though.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is it, though? I don't know about you, but most (if not all) of my interactions with my computer are at levels above the kernel

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Then where do you draw the line?

    The vast majority of people also don’t interact with the GNU tools at all, so GNU/Linux isn’t the OS either. KDE would be, or perhaps the distro itself. I’m not sure I’d call the OS GNU/Linux/Ubuntu/KDE. At that point might as well throw in firefox, for many it’s pretty much all the interaction they have with the computer.

    Or what about the distros that don’t use the GNU coreutils? They are generally still called linux and still get to run apps made for linux, even with no traces of GNU.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I made that comment in slight jest. But anyway using non GNU OS still is consistent with my viewpoint that you don't operate the kernel per se. The kernel sits at a layer below what the user operates.

    As for the argument of apps being made for Linux, it is nothing more than just a semantic shortcut to the common ground between all these independent OS

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Of course you don’t operate the kernel, but the kernel operates the system.

    My point is that there are many layers between the kernel and user and which you interact with depends on the person. The only common point between all these, at least for linux, is the linux kernel itself.

    I get that the “axchually GNU/linux” is just a joke, but considering how much impact linux has versus GNU, it’s totally fine to omit it. You can totally just use busybox instead and you’re still using a Linux OS.

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