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[+] hamid@crazypeople.online [S] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I was about to say thanks for the free ableism, but you did edit that out, so kudos, I guess. Anyway, I dont see those two messages as being hypocritical because these are two separate issues. The main benefit of residential waste diversion is to extend the life of landfills -- the climate benefits are secondary. Even if someone is a climate change denier, they should want waste sorting because landfills are expensive and their taxes would go up to build new ones. The government asking you to sort your waste isnt an example of them failing to tackle the main actors of climate change. It's cities trying to mitigate a separate issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most green bin programs are run by municipal governments. Big polluters are typically regulated by state/provincial governments or federal governments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago I wanted to make that point too, but since the discourse is currently at the "I like pancakes. So you hate waffles?" stage, I didn't think we were ready to get into separation of responsibilities lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (7 children) It absolutely and explicitly implies that recycling isn't worth bothering with because companies will fuck shit up anyways permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (6 children) Recycling is necessary and putting band aids on your ouchy papercuts doesnt help shit while you have a cannonball exit wound in your chest. When the billionaire class is dead and gone, it will matter. Until then its onanistic victim blaming and I take offense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Being in practice can only help. There is no downside to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Sure, go nuts. But cardio and marksmanship would do more for the environment, if that's really what you care about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I'm well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I'm not a practitioner of violence. I'm not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Trolley problem, babe. Just with a lot more zeroes on one side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent [–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago I interpret the meme as "theres no point doing this right because big corps aren't expected to do anything right". Either way i think there was a better way to get the message across. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) I was about to say thanks for the free ableism, but you did edit that out, so kudos, I guess. Anyway, I dont see those two messages as being hypocritical because these are two separate issues. The main benefit of residential waste diversion is to extend the life of landfills -- the climate benefits are secondary. Even if someone is a climate change denier, they should want waste sorting because landfills are expensive and their taxes would go up to build new ones. The government asking you to sort your waste isnt an example of them failing to tackle the main actors of climate change. It's cities trying to mitigate a separate issue. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most green bin programs are run by municipal governments. Big polluters are typically regulated by state/provincial governments or federal governments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago I wanted to make that point too, but since the discourse is currently at the "I like pancakes. So you hate waffles?" stage, I didn't think we were ready to get into separation of responsibilities lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Most green bin programs are run by municipal governments. Big polluters are typically regulated by state/provincial governments or federal governments. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago I wanted to make that point too, but since the discourse is currently at the "I like pancakes. So you hate waffles?" stage, I didn't think we were ready to get into separation of responsibilities lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] malle_yeno@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago I wanted to make that point too, but since the discourse is currently at the "I like pancakes. So you hate waffles?" stage, I didn't think we were ready to get into separation of responsibilities lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (7 children) It absolutely and explicitly implies that recycling isn't worth bothering with because companies will fuck shit up anyways permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (6 children) Recycling is necessary and putting band aids on your ouchy papercuts doesnt help shit while you have a cannonball exit wound in your chest. When the billionaire class is dead and gone, it will matter. Until then its onanistic victim blaming and I take offense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Being in practice can only help. There is no downside to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Sure, go nuts. But cardio and marksmanship would do more for the environment, if that's really what you care about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I'm well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I'm not a practitioner of violence. I'm not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Trolley problem, babe. Just with a lot more zeroes on one side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (6 children) Recycling is necessary and putting band aids on your ouchy papercuts doesnt help shit while you have a cannonball exit wound in your chest. When the billionaire class is dead and gone, it will matter. Until then its onanistic victim blaming and I take offense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Being in practice can only help. There is no downside to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Sure, go nuts. But cardio and marksmanship would do more for the environment, if that's really what you care about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I'm well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I'm not a practitioner of violence. I'm not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Trolley problem, babe. Just with a lot more zeroes on one side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (5 children) Being in practice can only help. There is no downside to it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Sure, go nuts. But cardio and marksmanship would do more for the environment, if that's really what you care about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I'm well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I'm not a practitioner of violence. I'm not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Trolley problem, babe. Just with a lot more zeroes on one side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (4 children) Sure, go nuts. But cardio and marksmanship would do more for the environment, if that's really what you care about. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I'm well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I'm not a practitioner of violence. I'm not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Trolley problem, babe. Just with a lot more zeroes on one side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 1 year ago (3 children) I'm well aware. Unfortunately as ineffective as it is I'm not a practitioner of violence. I'm not going to take the life of another human being even if they deserve it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Trolley problem, babe. Just with a lot more zeroes on one side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Trolley problem, babe. Just with a lot more zeroes on one side. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) I'm aware. I'm aware violence is more effective as a net result. Yet still stuck with the inability to do it, just like every person on here who espouses violence without action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Not more effective. When one party hordes power and refuses to negotiate, and wants you to die or is committed to a course of action that will with certainty kill you ¹ there are two choices: violence and suicide. I'm pretty okay with either option, but please dont pretend suicide is anything else. Like my natural apathy does tend to put me on team suicide, but people lying about it who start to panic when they can't lie to themselves anymore are really fucking up my chill. ¹lucky us; we get both permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago I interpret the meme as "theres no point doing this right because big corps aren't expected to do anything right". Either way i think there was a better way to get the message across. permalink fedilink source parent