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[–] 27 points 1 year ago (11 children)

We envision them taking a bus, walking, or biking home. Not them each getting picked up individually by their parents

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    When a world without cars is inconceivable, it becomes a presumed condition of the question that the answer must involve cars.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    I live in the UK and walk my children to school every day. There is still a line for school pickup/drop-off because not everyone is so lucky.

    This isn't even an American phenomenon.

    Some amount of people will be driving cars to pickup and drop-off every day, even if it's minimized and even if it's not always the same people.

    So it stands to reason they should do it in some kind of orderly fashion as dictated by the school for the safety of, get this, THE CHILDREN ARRIVING BY FOOT, BIKE OR BUS

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (6 children)

    We're also talking about five year olds walking 1-2 mi at the end of a long day. Older kids, fine, but 5 is pretty young. I don't think my parents were comfortable with me walking/biking home alone until 4th grade.

    There's also plenty of other valid use cases, such as if you are taking your kid to something after school. Or they have an activity which causes them to stay late. Or you don't want them to take the bus cause you're already in the neighborhood and why not pick them up as a treat (when I was growing up, buses didn't have a/c - riding in anything that didn't have a bunch of smelly sweating kids was definitely a treat)

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    It might just be possible that in a country of 300+ million people spread over 3 million square miles where each school district is operated at a local level...for two people to have had different experiences.

    Either way if your parents thought 5 was old enough to get home from school by yourself, good for you I guess.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So...you just had a personal pick-up line at your friend's house?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Even if they're within walking range only 25% of kids walk. 50% are driven by private car, and 25% take the bus. So you literally have 50% of kids that are within walking range still getting dropped off/picked up by private vehicle.

    For your other use cases, that's why other countries use public transit rather than publicly funded school buses that only run twice a day. It's just a massive waste of money.

    https://www.bts.gov/topics/passenger-travel/back-school-2019

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well that's fun data. The very bottom of the page links to the raw dataset.

    This country also uses public buses in some areas. Where I grew up the school board staggered starts so the school busses are used most of the day.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah the truth of the matter is, people use cars because they have them. If they didn't have them things would be a lot different. You can see that by looking at the data on that link as well. 70% of impoverished children ride the school bus. So not only are those kids disadvantaged with money, but they're disadvantaged with the situations you're talking about with after school activities as well. Public transit would be better for everyone here. We wouldn't be funding these school buses that might ride empty, taxpayer dollars would be able to be reallocated to the actual teaching in the school or even better public transit. A small portion of that would go to the impoverished or those that can't take public transit.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Meanwhile we have busses that don't always go anywhere close to everyone's houses (or if they do, they may take multiple hours to get there after dropping off a hundred other kids), almost non-existent sidewalks in most suburbs, dumbasses who don't watch for people on bikes, and a court system that's regularly faulted the person on the bike for getting hit.

    Greatest country!

    Also, at least where I live, you have to have prior permission to ride the bus. Your parent is going to be late picking you up? Guess you're waiting outside cause they didn't pre sign the permission slip!

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