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Career Advice (lemmy.ml)
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[–] 93 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Forbes magazine found a long time ago that the best way to get a raise in America is to find another job.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Also true in Germany

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Also true in the UK, I could get an extra +£10k just by leaving for a senior position elsewhere.

    But I don't want to for two reasons:

    1. I don't feel I have enough experience to actually be a senior in my job and want to stay where I am currently to learn some more before I leave.

    2. I really like my current company because they treat me very very well and are the complete opposite of my previous company who gave me workplace PTSD, anxiety, and made me suicidally depressed. On top of that my company commits to inflation matching yearly wage adjustments, so I'm not loosing money by staying here.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    In Italy, for technical jobs, traditionally a new employer should offer your 10% more on your yearly gross. Conditions apply of course, such as being already above the average pay for your position and experience, or having already changed job recently, but it's way more than you usually would be able to bargain for a raise (idk why employers are allergic to pay raises, but replacing you when you leave with someone more expensive apparently is ok, despite the new hire requiring time to get up to speed).

    Nowadays it works less for roles that aren't in high demand, and even then they try to low-ball you whenever possible, but it's still better than fighting for raises.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I've gotten anywhere from 20k to 40k increases when I switch companies. If I stay I'm only getting the "standard" 2~4%

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That was a long time ago though. Since covid the market has changed and it’s probably not as good of an idea to be a job hopper as it was.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Depends on what job you're in. If it's highly technical and niche you'll have an easier time finding a better job. A competitor recently tried to poach me for a 50% raise but I turned them down since they didn't have hybrid work available. Sometimes it's better to stick with a job that offers things you value more than money.

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