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[–] 59 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

We may collect information such as occupation, language, zip code, area code, unique device identifier, referrer URL, location, and the time zone where an Apple product is used so that we can better understand customer behavior and improve our products, services, and advertising. We may collect information regarding customer activities on our website, iCloud services, our iTunes Store, App Store, Mac App Store, App Store for Apple TV and iBooks Stores and from our other products and services. This information is aggregated and used to help us provide more useful information to our customers and to understand which parts of our website, products, and services are of most interest. Aggregated data is considered non‑personal information for the purposes of this Privacy Policy. We may collect and store details of how you use our services, including search queries. This information may be used to improve the relevancy of results provided by our services. Except in limited instances to ensure quality of our services over the Internet, such information will not be associated with your IP address. With your explicit consent, we may collect data about how you use your device and applications in order to help app developers improve their apps.

This is from Apple's privacy policy

It seems to me like they collect telemetry just like Windows, and of course some Mac apps do have advertising which is personalized according to the beginning.

Apple has been doing extremely invasive telemetry tracking of your usage since before the release of Big Sur. Gee, I wonder where Microsoft got the idea to invasively gather all this telemetry from the user in the first place?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    This is stuff they collect when you are interacting with Apple services. The problem with windows copilot is that it collects info about everything you do, even when it has nothing to do with Microsoft.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Does "our other products and services" not include macOS? I mean, you don't stop interacting with their product when you open other programs. You're using their product as a means of accessing them.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    This is stuff they collect when you are interacting with Apple services.

    Since you are being vague, I am assuming you are saying thats it's only exclusive to Apple-made stuff.

    You don't know that, and can't say bullshit like this as if you are an authority on this subject working at Apple.

    Please provide sources for your claims.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    His source is your quote, they specify it in their verbiage right there.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That's crazy because Apple is ALSO collecting telemetry at all times just like Copilot is, but Apple has brainwashed too many idiots with their master-level marketing that everyone comes running to hypocritically defend Apple doing what Microsoft does, despite the fact that Apple has been doing this years before Microsoft had the capability or appetite to do the same thing.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wasn’t the point of Apple always that they don’t sell the data to third parties and not that they don’t collect anything?

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  • Anonymised telemetry is different from collecting information to sell for marketing, though.

    Of course, in the realm of privacy, everyone should know their own threat model. Anonymised telemetry is not a threat to me. But if it's a threat to you (nebulous term — the person to whom I am replying, or anyone reading), then none of the big tech companies offer viable alternatives. You (same audience) cannot say Apple's telemetry is a problem and then use anything from Microsoft, Google, or Meta.

    For my threat model, Meta/Facebook has always been a bridge too far. Google has too, for the most part. I used to think Microsoft was fine, but no longer do. But, that's just me.

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