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Apparently, Rocket League and Fall Guys are being ported to Fortnite. Both games currently work on Linux, but in the future, they may require playing through Fortnite (lemmy.ml)
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and Epic Games stance on Linux gaming is known

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[–] 67 points 1 year ago (34 children)

I've got a couple thousand hours in Rocket League over the years but Epic has successfully made it so insufferable that I haven't played it in about a year. Such a shame.

Stop killing games? What about stop fucking up games?

We seriously need to have a long conversation about what constitutes a refund on a game. I got several thousand hours of good times out of this game but the game that I paid for is no longer available.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    The thing is, you never paid for a "game" in the first place. You paid for a license with a whole boatload of conditions.

    The thing that needs to be fixed is not refunds, but what "buying" something digital means in the first place.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago* (14 children)

    I didn't say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game. Whether that's a "purchase" or a "license" is irrelevant to the fact that I can't even play the game I "licensed" either.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Hmm, your original response pre-edit was a lot nicer.

    I didn’t say I purchased a game, I said I paid for a game.

    I also didn't use the word purchase. You said "paid for a game", I quoted you as saying you "paid for a game".

    Why are you pretending I misquoted you?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    Because the difference seemed to be what your point was. If it wasn't, I have no idea what it was. I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (10 children)

    That was my point -- I was building off of what you said...

    I paid for a license for a game. Thus I paid for a game.

    This is exactly the problem. This should be true, but it isn't in most cases.

    Store's like GOG get much closer by giving you a DRM free copy. But some would say that even then, if you aren't allowed to modify and distribute that, you don't really own the game either.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Okay so if I didn't pay for a license for a game, what did I pay for?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    You did, and that licence comes with plenty of terms that can restrict or revoke your access to that game.

    Which shouldn't be allowed, but it is.

    In an ideal world, you wouldn't have to purchase a license to the game at all. You could purchase the game itself by receiving a packaged copy of it along with a copy of the source code.

    But something inbetween would be a nice start.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (7 children)

    Great, I'm glad we sorted that out. Thanks for the unnecessary clarification.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Lol you say you want a discussion and then act like a dickhead when someone engages in that discussion.

    Nice work.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I didn't say I wanted a discussion? Why are you misquoting me? I just honestly have no fucking idea what your point is and it's tiresome. Goodbye now.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    We seriously need to have a long conversation

    This you?

    I just honestly have no fucking idea what your point is and it’s tiresome.

    Skill issue.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    How convenient that you omitted the part of the sentence that describes what the conversation is about. It wasn't this.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it was about what constitutes a refund, which I built upon...

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You didn't build upon anything, you exclusively attempted to derail the conversation into some sort of ridiculous semantics argument that I still don't understand.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Shut the fuck up with your pedantic points. We are broadly talking about having fun with a game. Who the fuck cares if I don't own it after 10 years? People mature, fads fade, and games get stale. Do I like it? No. But I am not going to derail all other conversations to make it about the point I am determined to shove into every around me. Fuck off.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    The game itself hasn’t changed at all since Epic acquisition. The only significant changes they have made are making it free and removing trading which don’t affect gameplay.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    How about them making the variants like Snow Day unavailable unless it's in season, or at least that's how it looked to me when I logged back on after a year or two of not playing. I also remember when you could play Snow Day and it wasn't competitive.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, Snow Day and Dropshot are seasonal for ranked play. That’s because they were not popular enough on their own so it was taking too long to find matches at high ranks, making it hard to get the season title. Has nothing to do with the Epic acquisition though, just a need to reduce fragmentation on the player pool.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would venture a guess that they are not popular enough because of the changes they made. I do recall a ton of people being pissed when they switched them to not having a casual option and went to ranked only. I wasn't sure about the epic acquisition having an effect though. Thanks.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    They were made ranked on 2018, and Rocket League had its peak in player base around 2020-2021 after it became free. Unfortunately that was followed by a huge drop in player base in 2022, which led to the extra modes changes in 2023.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The changes they've made are adding 348953754 pop-ups every time you open a game or finish a match, and completely useless servers.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The changes they've made are adding 348953754 pop-ups every time you open a game or finish a match

    it has been like this since 2017. Now there’s maybe 1 or 2 extra pop-ups for the game pass garbage. Not that it’s a good thing, but it’s hardly a difference if it’s about 2 pop-ups or 4 pop-ups.

    completely useless servers

    Do you seriously think Epic servers are worse than what they had before? Psyonix servers were famously horrible to the point that the CEO had to issue a statement in 2017: https://www.rocketleague.com/en/news/server-performance-a-letter-from-our-ceo/

    Followed by another Psyonix statement a year later: https://www.rocketleague.com/en/news/rocket-league-server-performance-update

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    it has been like this since 2017.

    It hasn't.

    Do you seriously think Epic servers are worse

    No I don't. I know they are. Like the game is literally and unironically unplayable anymore. Maybe that's an issue that's affecting me specifically somehow but I don't have problems with any other games.

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