▲ 294 ▼ Why Signal’s post-quantum makeover is an amazing engineering achievement (arstechnica.com) submitted 1 year ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 61 comments fedilink hide all child comments New design sets a high standard for post-quantum readiness.
[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (5 children) It's not going to happen this century, probably never permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] turmacar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Even if quantum computing turns out to actually be infeasible and classical cryptography is secure for the next millennia, it's still a good feature to have a third independent encryption layer in the protocol. It makes it that much less likely reliant on the other two being bulletproof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Maybe. I don't know at which point all that extra processing stops being worth it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) How sure are you? Assign a percentage chance to it and the cost of exposing old messages, and compare that to the cost of this dev effort. We know governments are using it, and there's likely a lot of sensitive data transmitted through Signal, so the cost of it happening in the next 20 years would still be substantial, so even if the chance of that timeline happening is small, there's still value in investing in forward secrecy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/bollocks.pdf permalink fedilink source parent [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago They also want nuclear fusion reactors and there is none in the horizon after 50 years of research and development (even though many want to sell the idea that there are). You can start preparing for post hypercomputation cryptography too if you believe your argument. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) Even if quantum computing turns out to actually be infeasible and classical cryptography is secure for the next millennia, it's still a good feature to have a third independent encryption layer in the protocol. It makes it that much less likely reliant on the other two being bulletproof. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Maybe. I don't know at which point all that extra processing stops being worth it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Maybe. I don't know at which point all that extra processing stops being worth it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) How sure are you? Assign a percentage chance to it and the cost of exposing old messages, and compare that to the cost of this dev effort. We know governments are using it, and there's likely a lot of sensitive data transmitted through Signal, so the cost of it happening in the next 20 years would still be substantial, so even if the chance of that timeline happening is small, there's still value in investing in forward secrecy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/bollocks.pdf permalink fedilink source parent [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago They also want nuclear fusion reactors and there is none in the horizon after 50 years of research and development (even though many want to sell the idea that there are). You can start preparing for post hypercomputation cryptography too if you believe your argument. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/bollocks.pdf permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago They also want nuclear fusion reactors and there is none in the horizon after 50 years of research and development (even though many want to sell the idea that there are). You can start preparing for post hypercomputation cryptography too if you believe your argument. permalink fedilink source parent