▲ 881 ▼ Maybe liberals just care more about their community? (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 1 year ago by florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world 90 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago (6 children) No. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] tetris11@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children) Tens of thousands of people and not a single scrap of litter accidentally strewn from the various people with their musical fanfare. I'm not even sure Japan is that good. Why don't we just focus on the hard policies which are destroying people's livelihoods with provable statistics, instead of scrounging for wishful narratives focused around littering of all things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (2 children) Tens of thousands of people who had a clear motivation to come across as upstanding citizens, and who generally had a political leaning towards environmentalism. I can believe they didn't leave trash behind. See, that's the kind of thing that can happen when you value community and work together. You can have significant and nice shared resources. It's not a tragedy of the commons race to the bottom you get with rugged individualists and/or selfish children who see trash on the ground and say "that's bad, the person who did that needs to clean it up and be punished" and then it sits there and rots. And yeah there are WAY more important things to worry about than how various groups do or do not litter. But it is an illustrative example of the different priorities and values of the groups. It seems like a topic for discussion as we live in a world where some people are still somehow just finding out that this Trump character might not a be all above board. But for something so minor why are you so insistent upon pushing it away and disregarding it? That's two different justifications now for doing so (these are cherry picked, ok maybe not but it doesn't matter). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] turmacar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* Because blindly believing a meme caption just reinforces the bubble. It's not great. I would absolutely love for this to be true, but it weirds me out that the only image attribution is on one of the Charlie Kirk images. Literally any semblance of a source would be nice to reassure that this isn't an old shot from a movie shoot with the No Kings logo overlaid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tetris11@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago The community on my street is amazing, we check in on each other, we volunteer at the local park, and often host each other for big events. We pick up trash routinely, but due to the nature of wind and trash bags never being fully sealed, there is always something blowing around in a corner to pick up. That photo is pristine. If that reflects an ideal for you, then power to us both. But if that reflects an actual reality to you, then I need to stop responding to comments in this sub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Because hard policy doesn't win elections, it doesn't own them, and of the last ten years have taught us anything; that is the new meta permalink fedilink source parent [–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* Sure we could, but that wasn't you question. How about I'll give you a headstart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children) Tens of thousands of people and not a single scrap of litter accidentally strewn from the various people with their musical fanfare. I'm not even sure Japan is that good. Why don't we just focus on the hard policies which are destroying people's livelihoods with provable statistics, instead of scrounging for wishful narratives focused around littering of all things permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (2 children) Tens of thousands of people who had a clear motivation to come across as upstanding citizens, and who generally had a political leaning towards environmentalism. I can believe they didn't leave trash behind. See, that's the kind of thing that can happen when you value community and work together. You can have significant and nice shared resources. It's not a tragedy of the commons race to the bottom you get with rugged individualists and/or selfish children who see trash on the ground and say "that's bad, the person who did that needs to clean it up and be punished" and then it sits there and rots. And yeah there are WAY more important things to worry about than how various groups do or do not litter. But it is an illustrative example of the different priorities and values of the groups. It seems like a topic for discussion as we live in a world where some people are still somehow just finding out that this Trump character might not a be all above board. But for something so minor why are you so insistent upon pushing it away and disregarding it? That's two different justifications now for doing so (these are cherry picked, ok maybe not but it doesn't matter). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] turmacar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* Because blindly believing a meme caption just reinforces the bubble. It's not great. I would absolutely love for this to be true, but it weirds me out that the only image attribution is on one of the Charlie Kirk images. Literally any semblance of a source would be nice to reassure that this isn't an old shot from a movie shoot with the No Kings logo overlaid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tetris11@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago The community on my street is amazing, we check in on each other, we volunteer at the local park, and often host each other for big events. We pick up trash routinely, but due to the nature of wind and trash bags never being fully sealed, there is always something blowing around in a corner to pick up. That photo is pristine. If that reflects an ideal for you, then power to us both. But if that reflects an actual reality to you, then I need to stop responding to comments in this sub. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Because hard policy doesn't win elections, it doesn't own them, and of the last ten years have taught us anything; that is the new meta permalink fedilink source parent [–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* Sure we could, but that wasn't you question. How about I'll give you a headstart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (2 children) Tens of thousands of people who had a clear motivation to come across as upstanding citizens, and who generally had a political leaning towards environmentalism. I can believe they didn't leave trash behind. See, that's the kind of thing that can happen when you value community and work together. You can have significant and nice shared resources. It's not a tragedy of the commons race to the bottom you get with rugged individualists and/or selfish children who see trash on the ground and say "that's bad, the person who did that needs to clean it up and be punished" and then it sits there and rots. And yeah there are WAY more important things to worry about than how various groups do or do not litter. But it is an illustrative example of the different priorities and values of the groups. It seems like a topic for discussion as we live in a world where some people are still somehow just finding out that this Trump character might not a be all above board. But for something so minor why are you so insistent upon pushing it away and disregarding it? That's two different justifications now for doing so (these are cherry picked, ok maybe not but it doesn't matter). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] turmacar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* Because blindly believing a meme caption just reinforces the bubble. It's not great. I would absolutely love for this to be true, but it weirds me out that the only image attribution is on one of the Charlie Kirk images. Literally any semblance of a source would be nice to reassure that this isn't an old shot from a movie shoot with the No Kings logo overlaid. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tetris11@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago The community on my street is amazing, we check in on each other, we volunteer at the local park, and often host each other for big events. We pick up trash routinely, but due to the nature of wind and trash bags never being fully sealed, there is always something blowing around in a corner to pick up. That photo is pristine. If that reflects an ideal for you, then power to us both. But if that reflects an actual reality to you, then I need to stop responding to comments in this sub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* Because blindly believing a meme caption just reinforces the bubble. It's not great. I would absolutely love for this to be true, but it weirds me out that the only image attribution is on one of the Charlie Kirk images. Literally any semblance of a source would be nice to reassure that this isn't an old shot from a movie shoot with the No Kings logo overlaid. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago The community on my street is amazing, we check in on each other, we volunteer at the local park, and often host each other for big events. We pick up trash routinely, but due to the nature of wind and trash bags never being fully sealed, there is always something blowing around in a corner to pick up. That photo is pristine. If that reflects an ideal for you, then power to us both. But if that reflects an actual reality to you, then I need to stop responding to comments in this sub. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago Because hard policy doesn't win elections, it doesn't own them, and of the last ten years have taught us anything; that is the new meta permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 1 year ago* Sure we could, but that wasn't you question. How about I'll give you a headstart. permalink fedilink source parent
