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[–] 4 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Also family and groceries.

I wouldn't ask my 9YO on a bike at 7:30 am on winter to go to school everyday. Also no family trips. The place we go to the most is on the other side of mountains 3 hours away by car.

Groceries would have to be more regular. I currently fill the car and go like once a month or month and a half

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I know this might sound pedantic but I will try to write with love. 90% of the world population buy groceries weekly or more often. Many European countries buy fresh food on the daily. Yes, from the grocery downstairs, or across the road. Car centric urban design fucked you up. It's built for the car, not for human beings. Your perception and expectations are completely out of wack with normal human existence.

    For example, Costco style mega stores are not a thing in almost all of the world. No, no one needs a 3 year supply of mustard for a family of 4. Most businesses don't need a heavy duty truck, why would a middle class family need one just to get to the school and office. You don't need a 4x4 for the two trips a year you take to the mountains, on an asphalt road.

    It's all bizarre, it is all out of proportion. But it is not a personal failure, oil corporations and car manufacturers created this weird mar on the planet that is suburban sprawl and car dependent infrastructure. We just live with the consequences.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I wouldn't ask my 9YO on a bike at 7:30 am on winter to go to school everyday

    Why not? In a lot of the world that's pretty normal.

    Winter cycling in Norway

    When I was a kid I walked 30-40 minutes to and from school in the winter. I would have preferred to bike, but they didn't clear the bike lanes. In places in Europe they make plowing the bike lanes a priority, so everybody can count on being able to commute by bike.

    The place we go to the most is on the other side of mountains 3 hours away by car.

    You shouldn't have to rely on a car to get somewhere that's that far away. It's more reasonable to take a train to get that kind of distance.

    Groceries would have to be more regular. I currently fill the car and go like once a month or month and a half

    Do you not like fresh food? Do you ever eat fruit or vegetables? Or meat that hasn't been frozen?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (10 children)

    You can just take some other transportation for long trips.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Cars and bikes take you wherever you want, whenever you want. Cars are just faster.

    Other transportation methods don't go whenever nor whenever.

    Cars are not perfect. And for short trips don't make sense. But they are the most useful.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The only level head in this thread lol.

    Im convinced most people on here live in a closet sized apartment and buy 1 bag of groceries a week. Its sad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I just used my car to go 3 blocks away and I'm so disappointed in myself.

    Also the way back was like 10 blocks

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I used my car today to go about 2km away. I picked up a couple heavy packs of drinks, a box of litter, and and five bags of groceries. The travel maybe cost me 1USD. There is no fucking way I could lug all of that home for my family with something that isn’t a car.

    I am not disappointed in myself. I just have to play with the cards I’m dealt.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    If you measure in blocks and not miles, youre already likely in bike country! Im at least a 15 min drive from any grocery. So an hour bike.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I don't measure in miles because I live in a metric country. So I used blocks that we all understand.

    I have a lot of options for gfocieries nearby. They are just more expensive than the large sellers. ( 3 in a 2 block radius)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I gotcha, but blocks dont work in non city areas or spread out cities

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    So? If I say blocks, MOST people get it (let's say 99%). if I say meters MOST people don't get it (let's say over 70% are from the us). If I say miles, I don't get it.

    Which would you choose?

    Also id guess that even people who live in spread out cities or non city areas still go somewhat often to standard cities

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