cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37367499

This is building consent for a US war on Venezuela.

Nobel war prize more like, considering the people they award this to.

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[+] 55 points 1 year ago (51 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    Perhaps she's not interested in democracy beyond using it as a vehicle to get herself in the driver's seat.

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  • [+] -3 points 1 year ago (22 children)
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    Hell the only thing I know about her is that she's flattering a fascist dictator and and seems to be hinting around asking said fascist dictator to invade her country. Sounds pretty fucking abysmal to me.

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  • [+] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Oh it's so so could be worse.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The irrepairable brain damage in a simpleton starts with: First, the CIA are part of team "good guys". Next the simpleton does not notice the 100% corelation between simpleton understood democratic leaders and moderate opposition parties forming pro CIA policies, and simpleton understanding of autocratic leaders with extremist parties who oppose CIA policies.

    Selling PVDSA to Chevron is only a good idea for someone who could have the power to broker the deal and get a nice bribe to get Chevron the best deal possible instead of the people of Venezeula getting the best deal possible. Chevron will simply have a supremacist advantage in bribery power.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)
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    Just because the CIA tells you an election is rigged, because and only because they lost at rigging it, doesn't actually mean that there is no democracy. Similar to Trump 2020 complaints. Narco terrorists that campaign on gifting PVDSA to the US is not that much of a shock. The corrupt CIA outcome being the only democratic outcome is how every NATO country operates.

    Would democracy in the US be stronger if Trump had awaited all of his trials in military prison, or had fallen out a window? If Christozionist establishment didn't make Charlie Kirk a Protestant saint? Establishment definitely exterminates speech they don't like, and more of that happens in US than elsewhere. Since the CIA does not love Venezuelans, exterminating CIA traitor speech is more democratic than not doing so.

    Repeating the first step, The CIA/US empire are not on the "good guys team". Everything that comes out of their mouth is a lie, but especially commentary on any election results they don't like. You cannot proceed to enlightenment without getting past the first step.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    that’s not by the account of the CIA, it’s by the account of Maduro and his administration.

    Traitorous CIA stooges getting arrested for their obvious treason being complained about by CIA and their NGOs doesn't make exterminating traitorous scum "undemocratic". During 2020 DNC administration, continuing to act as controlled opposition to GOP instead of exterminating Trump, 2016 administration GOP criminals, Jan 6th tourists, even after SCOTUS gave Biden (sitting president) the power to so, has made the US less democratic today than 1930s Germany.

    The US is the most corrupt country in history. A common exaggeration is that Trump is a Putin/FSB agent. It's an exaggeration because Zionaziism media and electoral financing control provides total control over US including DNC control to just lose if that is best for Israel. But Neocon/CIA war on Russia is stupid, and Trump resisting that gets plenty of establishment push back.

    For some reason, CIA nobel committee did not consider Putin for peace prize. Russian political establishment would consider him only viable candidate. If nobel committee was more fascist than CIA controlled, they might have given Trump the peace prize in 2020 for his "hard work on election accountability". What would be proof of Trump is a traitor to America is saying "Russia, if you're listening, please nuke DC so that we can be liberated from DNC tyranny"

    This exactly what this demonic pig fucking CIA sycophantic committee did this year. The CIA vision for world peace is not a humanist objective reality vision.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Of course she does. You always have shit takes.

    The only reason she's there is because she want to privatize the petrol industry. Americans are thirty for oil, episode 29

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The USA doesn't determine who gets the Nobel prize

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The USA are the one imposing their diplomatic narrative. This is a clearly a political nomination. She supported the sanctions that literally starved her own country. She's a piece of shit.

    https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/venezuela-un-expert-calls-human-rights-not-charity-end-hunger-and

    https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2025/for-many-families-every-meal-is-a-struggle-in-venezuelas-economic-crisis/

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    Isn't that the reason she's trying to reestablish democracy in Venezuela, to get rid of an authoritarian leader she knows can't be satisfied?

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    A fake democracy where she will let the usa define the policies and profiting from venezuela oil

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Just look at the failure of the arab spring

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    She can hardly be blamed for that can she?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The parallel can be drawn since the USA and other western countries was involved in the post Arab spring. France fought to keep it's neo colonial influence in Tunisia. In Egypt , the USA was involved in taking down Morsi and put Sisi instead who is serving the USA and Israel interests .

    She is be the same type of traitor. She doesn't hide her support for Trump and supporting military intervention in Venezuela. Do you really believe the USA help any country for charity? It doesn't matter how harder it could be but Venezuelans should remove Maduro by themselves with no foreign interference

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  • [+] 5 points 1 year ago (17 children)
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    No, I think she's trying to flatter Trump to make sure the US still supports a democratic transition in Venezuela. Trump doesn't need to be goaded into not liking Maduro, even if they're both authoritarian lovers

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    This is also the reward he apparently coveted most. Frankly she might be doing this just not to be directly targeted by him negatively.

    I have no idea, but i wouldn't want to be the person who beat Trump for this award, the dude is not afraid to kill civilians in cold blood.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    have you seen how Murica "supports democratic transitions" around the world?? you can't possibly be this naive

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    yet you have no issues pretending to justify her behaviour?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I answered a question with what I think she does when she's tweeting??

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    ok, so either she wants the usa to install her (or someone close) as a puppet regime or she is too stupid to understand that

    either way we are both speculating and your “I'm not Maria" makes no difference

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes, we are both obviously speculating. But you accused me of being naive about the US and it's role in democratic transitions as an answer to my speculation of her tweet. I don't think you read what I wrote especially close or you wouldn't be this confrontational. 🙄

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    so you get to speculate for free but we cannot challenge your speculation because, at that moment, it's not yours, it's whomever you placed the speculation on?

    by the way, you did not even clarify you were speculating, you outright stated her position

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    No, I think she’s trying to flatter Trump to make sure the US still supports a democratic transition in Venezuela.
    Trump doesn’t need to be goaded into not liking Maduro, even if they’re both authoritarian lovers

    Feel free to "challenge" what I think about her reasoning.

    you did not even clarify you were speculating, you outright stated her position

    See, you are not reading before answering, I even start the sentence with I think. Usually one does not need to put up a disclaimer when commenting on a forum..

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
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    Was transactional, and you could bet on how he would act. Now grandpa does as he's told. Not being funny. His dementia has been sliding off the cliff since '21 or '22, he's very near free-fall.

    Look at the general's meeting and his UN address. He's fucking gone.

    At this point I'm surprised his handlers let him speak in public. How long can they sustain that and what comes next?

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